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09-20-2014, 09:10 PM | #99 |
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I dont think many of you know much about the cayman.....You wouldn't be faster in any way. Slower in a straight line and slower around a corner. You would spend more on a brz when you upgrade it while it's sub par in every way. Just on parts alone the Cayman is cheaper. Maybe I need to post examples of what you actually get for $35k in the cayman market..... Maybe you all don't realize that when you buy tires/rims/coil overs it's gonna cost $5k for anything of real quality. Add that to the cost of a brz and you already spent more and have 130hp/tq less.
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I have read that Caymans are not track ready. I do not mean that you can't track a stock Cayman but like most cars they should be modified to cope with track work.
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You're still comparing apples to oranges. Getting a cheap used Cayman is going to require maintenance while the new twin won't. Comparing apples to apples, get a used FRS for $16K (yes they're that cheap around here). |
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Resale value, like I said you need to look at the entire picture. In my opinion I prefer the Cayman. Yours might be completely different
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I went to the US & UK Porsche Build Your Own pages and came up with the following for a base Cayman with two options: Porsche Torque Vectoring (PTV), and the Sport Suspension, which was one of two choices that had to be ordered to get PTV - the other choice was PASM, the active suspension system. Pricing was: UK - $67,272 + $13,454 VAT (yes, 20% sales tax!) = $80,726 US - $56,150 + $5,615 (10% South Gate sales tax) = $61,765 I'll bet $0.14 that the Porsche costs more in Germany than it does in the UK. Just a wild guess, really. |
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Yeah, your taxes kill it, but I wonder how it is on the used market there. Watching shows like Wheeler Dealers always makes me jealous what you can pick up over there for so cheap... |
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If you go to the link below, you can search through 1300+ 2009-2014 UK Caymans and try and figure out if the Brits are willing to take a way bigger hit on depreciation than we are; if they are, it would be interesting to know why. I took a look at a couple and think not; however, and this is one of the more boring aspects of the P-car world, trying to equate the lists of options makes my head hurt. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/u...ice-to/1000000 |
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Staying off-topic while remaining on the subject of relative cost of ownership of Caymans vs. Twins, one measure I use is to see who owns them. That is, what is their station in life: How old are they, what do they do for a living (the big one), where do they live, take their vacations, and send their kids to school, what other hobbies do they have...that sort of thing, also known as: What bracket are they in?
From the performance car perspective, my general observations regarding those criteria are that P-car owners fit between the owners of exotics and BMWs. Granted, that's a wide range, and there are many exceptions, especially in a country like ours where credit is so easy to come by, and where the cost of the car is less expensive than probably anywhere else in the world. |
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Um... Wrong? With the JRSC and coilovers, wheels, tires, you would most definitely be faster than a cayman. The base has 275hp and 215tq... a twin would have that and be lighter. Ask CSG how theirs does. .. |
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Sapphire Blue Metallic Electric folding outside mirrors ParkAssist rear Bi-Xenon Headlights incl. Dynamic Light System (No Bi-Xeon w/out adaptive headlights) Porsche Entry & Drive Porsche Doppelkupplung Sports suspension Porsche Torque Vectoring 2-zone automatic air conditioning Cruise control SportDesign steering wheel (for paddle shifting) Sound Package Plus with VAT & OTR costs, which seem to be £540, is £47'969 or $78,171. The closet equivalent US Porsche would be $64'360. That's with the upgrade to the BOSE audio system because I can't find the sound package on it's own, however that offsets the fact I can't find Porsche Entree & Drive. In terms of depreciation Caymans at hold their value much better than most similarly priced cars. |
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