Perrin Filter Failure - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

tofurun · 07-16-2016, 11:09 PM

So I took off my bumper today and found this.... I installed it 3 weeks ago... Apparently the super sharp chicken wire inside the filter cut through the rubber that was molded into the chicken wire itself and my filter was literally hanging on by a thread. Intake tube was wide open to the elements.

Contacting Perrin. Im sure they will take care of me but this design IMO was terrible. I spend money on Perrin like they going out of style and will continue to do so (stuff happens). Just a warning though to anyone running Perrin Intake. CHECK IT!!!!!

If anyone is wondering for the time being I went and got a Spectre shroud from the ricerzone and got it connected up pretty nice for the time being.

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 07-17-2016, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tofurun

So I took off my bumper today and found this.... I installed it 3 weeks ago... Apparently the super sharp chicken wire inside the filter cut through the rubber that was molded into the chicken wire itself and my filter was literally hanging on by a thread. Intake tube was wide open to the elements.

Contacting Perrin. Im sure they will take care of me but this design IMO was terrible. I spend money on Perrin like they going out of style and will continue to do so (stuff happens). Just a warning though to anyone running Perrin Intake. CHECK IT!!!!!

If anyone is wondering for the time being I went and got a Spectre shroud from the ricerzone and got it connected up pretty nice for the time being.

I hope others with the perrin intake check up on this, I know some with the innovate kit running this. Is it possible something was over torqued?

humfrz · 07-17-2016, 01:20 AM

OH, NO! ....... @tofurun tore up something else on his machine ......

First off, that wire mesh is NOT chicken wire ....... you, being from South Georgia should know that .....

Now, are you sure you had BOTH clamps on tight ...... ??

I think you should trade that puppy in on a Ford pickup truck before you destroy it ......

humfrz

phrosty · 07-17-2016, 02:19 AM

afaik Perrin tells you to not over-tighten the V-band for exactly this reason.

I've had the same filter for ~3 years now, have taken it off to clean it roughly twice a year and have had no issues.

Captain Snooze · 07-17-2016, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz

First off, that wire mesh is NOT chicken wire ......

What do you mean it's not chicken wire?

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ZionsWrath · 07-17-2016, 09:31 AM

That's cock wire

humfrz · 07-17-2016, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ZionsWrath

That's cock wire

You're not being helpful ..........

humfrz

tofurun · 07-17-2016, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by humfrz

OH, NO! ....... @tofurun tore up something else on his machine ......

First off, that wire mesh is NOT chicken wire ....... you, being from South Georgia should know that .....

Now, are you sure you had BOTH clamps on tight ...... ??

I think you should trade that puppy in on a Ford pickup truck before you destroy it ......

humfrz

Yea I think the 2nd clamp may have been too tight causing it. Either way I still think thats a poor design that can allow something like that to happen doesnt make sense to me.

And what kinds south georgia boy do u take me for? An F150? you mean the one sitting in my driveway????

tofurun · 07-17-2016, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

I hope others with the perrin intake check up on this, I know some with the innovate kit running this. Is it possible something was over torqued?

I think thats what did it

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Originally Posted by phrosty

afaik Perrin tells you to not over-tighten the V-band for exactly this reason.

I've had the same filter for ~3 years now, have taken it off to clean it roughly twice a year and have had no issues.

Yea they need to update their online instructions because it doesnt mention a single thing about it.

humfrz · 07-17-2016, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tofurun

Yea I think the 2nd clamp may have been too tight causing it. Either way I still think thats a poor design that can allow something like that to happen doesnt make sense to me.

And what kinds south georgia boy do u take me for? An F150? you mean the one sitting in my driveway????

Actually, that truck looks right civilized ..... for south Georgia ......

I spent some time in Georgia ...... back in the 60's ...... at a place called Ft Benning for some Ranger training ....... hot and humid in the daytime and wet and cold at night ..... propped up against a stump, waist deep swamp water .... waiting for daylight ...... to get a bearing. I felt sorry for the young soldiers who were afraid of snakes ......

Yep, tightening that clamp down ....... as you now know, it's a "thumb and two fingers on a small screwdriver" tight thing ......

humfrz

JazzleSAURUS · 07-18-2016, 03:44 PM

Gross! While it looks like it was tightened too much, I don't like the Perrin design at all.

There is an AEM dryflow that is oversized and fits the perrin intake. It requires a slight tweaking of one of the radiator support tabs, otherwise it's maybe 30% bigger, and it's a wonderful dryflow that should require much less care, and best of all isn't oiled.

tofurun · 07-18-2016, 09:32 PM

Talked to Perrin. Said they are updating their online instructions and it was due to over tightening. 100% sending me a brand new and said lets try to watch the tightening on my end lol. And this is why I order Perrin. A+ company. 0 hassle. With that being said.... I still dont like the filter design LOL

CCJ · 07-18-2016, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tofurun

Talked to Perrin. Said they are updating their online instructions and it was due to over tightening. 100% sending me a brand new and said lets try to watch the tightening on my end lol. And this is why I order Perrin. A+ company. 0 hassle. With that being said.... I still dont like the filter design LOL

SMH.

tofurun · 07-18-2016, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CCJ

SMH.

shake your head?

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phrosty Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Seattle Posts: 806 Thanks: 202 Thanked 320 Times in 199 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	afaik Perrin tells you to not over-tighten the V-band for exactly this reason. I've had the same filter for ~3 years now, have taken it off to clean it roughly twice a year and have had no issues. __________________ 2013 Whiteout 6AT FR-S \| Perrin Inlet Tube + 2.75" CAI \| OpenFlash Header \| P&L Catback \| 4.88 Final Drive \| Dialed in OFT 2.0x Stage 2 E85 \| 18x8 Enkei Raijin + 225/40 Michelin Pilot Super Sport \| 17x7 Stock + 215/45 Michelin X-Ice Xi-2

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JazzleSAURUS Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Drives: 15 BRZ LTD, 05 FXT Location: Western MA Posts: 1,032 Thanks: 561 Thanked 558 Times in 351 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Gross! While it looks like it was tightened too much, I don't like the Perrin design at all. There is an AEM dryflow that is oversized and fits the perrin intake. It requires a slight tweaking of one of the radiator support tabs, otherwise it's maybe 30% bigger, and it's a wonderful dryflow that should require much less care, and best of all isn't oiled. __________________ SOLD: 2015 WRB BRZ Limited ('02 WRX BBS, S-04's, Stoptech Sport pads, MXP SP, AVO drop in filter, Mishimoto Intake tube, decatted header, OFT 93 Stage 2 EL Tune, Kartboy rear shifter bushing, Whiteline transmission and subframe lockout bushings, ST Coilovers, SPC Camber bolts w/smaller crash bolt, SPC LCA's & SPC Toe Arm bushings, Red TOMs, TRD Wing.)

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