Add another one to the oil leak list

[Stang70Fastback]

I should never have shared this link with my troll friends, lol.

[Shark_Bait88]

Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback

I should never have shared this link with my troll friends, lol.

Umm... we aren't friends, bro.

[sevi21]

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait88

Umm... we aren't friends, bro.

Boom! Roasted.

[GreenMonster]

Originally Posted by BRZnut

dealer gave you the run around? What a surprise!

I NEVER understand this... Dealerships that give people hassles about warranty work are DUMB. It's free money. They just charge back the costs to Corporate. AND with the common issues, the techs are well experienced w/ the process, so they'll finish the job before the book rate.

Step 1. Write up work order
Step 2. ?
Step 3. PROFIT

edit: oops... thought this was the cam plate issue, but it looks like it's not a "common" issue.

[acetothermus]

Originally Posted by GreenMonster

I NEVER understand this... Dealerships that give people hassles about warranty work are DUMB. It's free money. They just charge back the costs to Corporate. AND with the common issues, the techs are well experienced w/ the process, so they'll finish the job before the book rate.

Step 1. Write up work order
Step 2. ?
Step 3. PROFIT

edit: oops... thought this was the cam plate issue, but it looks like it's not a "common" issue.

From my understanding of the warranty work process, dealers only get reimbursed for the parts they use/need...not the mechanics time. Which is worthy more than the parts any day (contrary to what they would have you believe at the parts counter...) So that's why dealers hate doing warranty work since it's really a lose lose situation for them.

Granted that doesn't excuse the shitty attitude and behavior we've all seen/hear about/dealt with, but it does provide some insight into why they act that way.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by roy826

I was also shocked to notice no coolant in the coolant tank literally dry. It was a little lows last oil change about 5 months ago didn't think anything of its.

Originally Posted by Itzed

If you are losing coolant, but not seeing a coolant leak, you are burning it. If you are burning it, you most likely have a head gasket problem.

Originally Posted by roy826

Yes I agree with that. I have told them I know. None in the oil at every oil change that I could tell. It's not an oil burner never used any during 5k chsnged intervals. Using Mobil 1 0w20 and Subaru oil filters. No visible leakage of coolant anywhere. The engine temp has never been above normal. This is her daily driver 38 miles a day it's never even been out of town on a trip and is garage kept.

Do yourself a favor and get a sample of engine oil and have it tested for trace coolant. If you do indeed have a head gasket leak, it should be verified by 3rd party testing, not by speculation.

Originally Posted by acetothermus

From my understanding of the warranty work process, dealers only get reimbursed for the parts they use/need...not the mechanics time.

Your understanding is wrong.

The manufacturer will reimburse the dealer for what they deem to be "normal" hours of fixing the problem (i.e. 6 hours to pull a valve cover on a FA20, for example). However, the labor rate is usually around 60-70% of what a normal mechanic charges for labor, so to the average mechanic it's less of a money maker.

But as I tell many people: work is work. When you have a good dealer they'll find a way to make money (or generate revenue). Only the shitty dealers turn down work handed to them.

And to OP: this is not a manufacturer's problem.

-alex

[Agent 86]

If I were you, I would call Subaru Corporate, describe the problem with your wife's car, and the Service Manager's attitude. Also, share with them how much your wife loves this car.

The dealership is the problem. I have experienced your frustration, so I don't mean to take away from that. However, it's a bit premature to blame Subaru without giving them a chance to make it right. If you can take the emotion out of it, you can search and find bad experiences from every other vehicle manufacturer.

[Agent 86]

Oh, I forgot to mention... Blackstone oil analysis is good for checking your oil for contamination from coolant and fuel.

Last, our 2013 Outback Ltd. was almost dry on coolant when I checked it about 3 weeks ago. No sign of coolant burning out of the tail pipe, and no coolant in the oil. Also, no overheating problem.

[roy826]

I dis y cone here to argue the obvious. For the ones who can't see the forest for the trees good luck you're gonna need it.

Just do not like spending hard earned money on sub quality products no matter the brand. Some of you are just Internet guys anyway seen this all to common. One reason I hate mentioning anything on a forum positive or negative. Let's just agree to disagree.

If I feel compelled after the fix I may post up if not oh well good luck keeping oil and coolant in these things. Mean that in a good way.

Good day,

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by roy826

I dis y cone here to argue the obvious. For the ones who can't see the forest for the trees good luck you're gonna need it.

Just do not like spending hard earned money on sub quality products no matter the brand. Some of you are just Internet guys anyway seen this all to common. One reason I hate mentioning anything on a forum positive or negative. Let's just agree to disagree.

If I feel compelled after the fix I may post up if not oh well good luck keeping oil and coolant in these things. Mean that in a good way.

Good day,

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=45

Good day indeed.

-alex

[IBill4You]

I just came here to say that my 01 celica GTS blew up at 60,200 miles as a result of a TSB that hadn't been repaired 200 miles outside of the warranty. Last Toyota I bought. My 2006 Honda Civic EX with 100,000 miles leaks 3 quarts of oil before the next oil change interval. Last Honda I bought. Just picked up a 2015 BRZ. We will see how this goes. My hopes are not that high honestly. I will gladly swap in an LSx when I begin to have issues with this motor though. The problem is that we are basing our expectations for reliability on cars these manufacturers produced a decade ago and based on price points that are vastly different to today....

[Dorb]

"Add another one to the oil leak list"
Are there a lot of the BRZ's that are having this issue? I know Consumer Reports 2015 car buying guide said this of the BRZ and FRS,- 'Reliability is well below average, and we can't recommend the BRZ."
I figured it was due to the crickets and taillight problems.

[Dorb]

"Honda S2000 she owned was destroyed by hail March 2013"
Must have been some hail storm.... sounds like bad luck with cars all around.

[MarcFr-s]

Sorry about your trouble with the car, but there's a lot of them here, Brz & Fr-s's that are getting the crap driven out of them, including me, with little or no problems. Get it fixed and give it a shot. Its a good car.