Treadstone Performance Turbo Kit Update!

[jiaim]

weird it seems it's gone.

[ka-titties]

They corrected it. 50% off on all intercooler parts.

[jiaim]

Originally Posted by ka-titties

They corrected it. 50% off on all intercooler parts.

seen that, bummer

[Evil Rocky]

I went looking for it and no luck seeing anything for the turbo kit.

[kmbkk]

I haven't provided an update in a while, so here goes. I'm just over 77K miles on my car now, about 75K on the kit. I still haven't had ANY issues with the kit. I recently installed the JDL front/over pipe combo (3" catted) and it bolts up perfectly. I plan on installing and tuning an E85 kit (PTuning) in a couple of weeks. Once I get it completed I'll provide an update on the kit with E85!

[thinkV]

Originally Posted by kmbkk

I haven't provided an update in a while, so here goes. I'm just over 77K miles on my car now, about 75K on the kit. I still haven't had ANY issues with the kit. I recently installed the JDL front/over pipe combo (3" catted) and it bolts up perfectly. I plan on installing and tuning an E85 kit (PTuning) in a couple of weeks. Once I get it completed I'll provide an update on the kit with E85!

I think your kit might be the exception as your maf pipe is a little different to the current kit is that right? The airflow is quite bad at low rpm and traffic, causes quite high trims and jumpiness. The maf position is on a bend

[solidsnake11]

Originally Posted by Jaden

Look into the Chrysler ppg m4s. 2.2 litre 4 banger twin turbo made 475hp...

Spool with two smaller turbo is always quicker

Jaden

Spool is directly related to exhaust volume. Twin turbos cut it in half. True built twin scrolls also cut it in half. With twins you can get the turbo closer to the head which reduces exhaust volume further. Oem's know this but they don't explain it to the general public.

Has little to do with smaller turbo size efficiency.

[Amputechture]

Originally Posted by thinkV

I think your kit might be the exception as your maf pipe is a little different to the current kit is that right? The airflow is quite bad at low rpm and traffic, causes quite high trims and jumpiness. The maf position is on a bend

Bummer man, I have the original version of the JDL auto kit. The MAF positioning is garbage...low speed driveability leaves much to be desired. Someone suggested putting a honeycomb air straightener in the charge pipe...ever heard of this?

[solidsnake11]

Originally Posted by Amputechture

Bummer man, I have the original version of the JDL auto kit. The MAF positioning is garbage...low speed driveability leaves much to be desired. Someone suggested putting a honeycomb air straightener in the charge pipe...ever heard of this?

A lot of Oem mafs have a screens on the (in) side of the maf. Actually I think the stock air box has air straighteners in it, if I remember correctly. Maybe someone can confirm.
You could move the maf sensor to a straighter section and weld it. I bought the maf mount off ebay. Just drill a hole and weld it on or have it welded.

[thinkV]

Originally Posted by Amputechture

Bummer man, I have the original version of the JDL auto kit. The MAF positioning is garbage...low speed driveability leaves much to be desired. Someone suggested putting a honeycomb air straightener in the charge pipe...ever heard of this?

I have considered this, similar situation. But also i just dont know if I can go through the trouble and effort of tuning it again.. have had so many issues I am tired. It runs now, my trims are a bit crazy, but its on target.

[Amputechture]

Originally Posted by thinkV

I have considered this, similar situation. But also i just dont know if I can go through the trouble and effort of tuning it again.. have had so many issues I am tired. It runs now, my trims are a bit crazy, but its on target.

I hear you man, it's a daunting task to throw more variables into the mix. I've been through the gauntlet with this car myself. For the most part, I know how to 'drive around' my areas that buck and hesitate but there are few situations even when throttle input is at steady state at highway speeds that my car bucks. I tell myself that it's not worth going through the hassle...and then everytime I drove a stock twin I think "god damn this car drives flawlessly". I love my powerband but having the shoddy MAF really ruins a lot of the driving experience.

[Amputechture]

Originally Posted by solidsnake11

A lot of Oem mafs have a screens on the (in) side of the maf. Actually I think the stock air box has air straighteners in it, if I remember correctly. Maybe someone can confirm.
You could move the maf sensor to a straighter section and weld it. I bought the maf mount off ebay. Just drill a hole and weld it on or have it welded.

I don't have any straight section....the "straightest" section would be right up by the throttle plate which is not ideal either because the valve motion will cause turbulence. I'm considering just taking my car to a reputable fabricator and seeing if they can make something happen. I don't believe it's just about the MAF being on a bend...it's that it's on a bend plus there is a diameter change in charge piping/plus a nearly 90 degree turn that the pipe smaller in diameter takes to get to the charge pipe. All of the SBD/Greddy/HKS/JDL V2/Blitz/HKS/Zage style kits maf position is not that much different than mine is honestly. But they all have a very flat pipe coming out of the cold side of the intercooler feeding the charge pipe. I believe this has a lot to do with it also.

[thinkV]

Originally Posted by Amputechture

I hear you man, it's a daunting task to throw more variables into the mix. I've been through the gauntlet with this car myself. For the most part, I know how to 'drive around' my areas that buck and hesitate but there are few situations even when throttle input is at steady state at highway speeds that my car bucks. I tell myself that it's not worth going through the hassle...and then everytime I drove a stock twin I think "god damn this car drives flawlessly". I love my powerband but having the shoddy MAF really ruins a lot of the driving experience.

It's a real shame that these kits aren't tested for this, I've come so far now, with so many revisions that I just need to "be happy". After a blown motor and a million issues, the car is better than it ever was. To go and have somebody make up another pipe that may have same issues isn't worth it for me anymore.

I've reached a point where if it isn't detrimental to my engine, it's not a problem, driving experience is gone. I am privileged to have never driven a stock 86 so i can't compare.....

[kmbkk]

Originally Posted by thinkV

I think your kit might be the exception as your maf pipe is a little different to the current kit is that right? The airflow is quite bad at low rpm and traffic, causes quite high trims and jumpiness. The maf position is on a bend

Yep, mine is the original kit. Not sure why they changed the MAF position tbh.