Top Gear Magazine Review of Subaru BRZ and Toyota GT86 - Page 4 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Nambo · 01-05-2012, 04:21 PM

Thanks davey90 for the heads up and Infernal for the scans, a really good read!

Mr.Jay · 01-05-2012, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinDuMa

Whoever wrote the Toyota article was obviously very unbiased lol

I think it was more along the lines that he was at a gaint track and only got to drive the car on a small go kart track with lot of restrictions which is weird cause I remember the other reviews saying that Toyota let them have free reign and Subaru had lots of restrictions

JabTomcat · 01-05-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 00NissanNinja

Sweet article, thanks for the scans infernal. Makes me even more excited to get a BRZ. I wonder if there is going to be a future Top Gear ep when cars are released. Take both the GT86 and BRZ out for a drive; probably would be a very entertaining episode.

When I first got interested in these cars, that is what I wanted to see the most! I do really hope they do an episode with the both of them.

slizoth · 01-05-2012, 05:23 PM

There is no way the FR-S will be priced at 25k. The BRZ was annouced at 24k and Scion said it will be the cheaper of the two, nice try Top Gear.

KevinDuMa · 01-05-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by slizoth

There is no way the FR-S will be priced at 25k. The BRZ was annouced at 24k and Scion said it will be the cheaper of the two, nice try Top Gear.

They're pricing the Gt-86 not the Fr-S. The Gt-86 is about an equivalent to the BRZ we are getting.

Stigmaru · 01-05-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DanPO

So I just went to Barnes and Noble. They didn't have it in yet. Darn.

I went to Barnes and Nobles and Walmart and none of them have this issue.

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Originally Posted by KevinDuMa

They're pricing the Gt-86 not the Fr-S. The Gt-86 is about an equivalent to the BRZ we are getting.

GT86 is still restricted to 197HP in Japan... BRZ is at least 200 HP like the FRS. Are you guys quoting prices in European currency??

coyote · 01-05-2012, 05:53 PM

I expect this thread will get locked. Anything with facts about the origins of this car tends to go that way.

Slide · 01-05-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bambbrose

Best article yet!

Some key points:
-Confirmed WRB is subaru only
-Confirmed, yet again, that there will NEVER be a turbo model
-Confirmed, from engineers, that with proper valvetrain a high RPM NA monster is possible.

BRZ STI with 240 HP and weight reduction? Sounds like a RWD ITR to me

-Confirmed needs a turbo!!!!

Levi · 01-05-2012, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Slide

-Confirmed needs a turbo!!!!

-Confirmed: it's called WRX!!!

Dragonitti · 01-05-2012, 06:20 PM

"I only did one mile in the GT86, while Ollie spent a whole day with Scoob."

How do you do a review with only one mile of driving? Sounded positive about the BRZ and the article turns negative with the GT86, yet they are the same car.....sounded more like politics being talked about than the actual car.

KevinDuMa · 01-05-2012, 06:55 PM

@Mr.Jay I know what you mean, but it seemed like he really wanted people to know this was mostly builty by Subaru which is really insignificant to the test drive. Quotes like "Engine is a Subaru boxer four with Toyota direct injection. Or that's what we've been led to believe..." like hes on a mission to discredit Toyota on everything with this car.

@AeroWRX I understand the restrictions, he said there was no way a Fr-S would be priced at $25grand but the review was for a Gt-86 which comes almost loaded with nav, alcantara seats, warmers, hid/leds etc. which the scion does not have but can be compared to the BRZ we will be getting here in the states which will be around $25 from what we know at the moment.

Cessblood · 01-05-2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonitti

"I only did one mile in the GT86, while Ollie spent a whole day with Scoob."

How do you do a review with only one mile of driving? Sounded positive about the BRZ and the article turns negative with the GT86, yet they are the same car.....sounded more like politics being talked about than the actual car.

I agree.

tranzformer · 01-05-2012, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bambbrose

BRZ STI with 240 HP and weight reduction? Sounds like a RWD ITR to me

That is what I have been asking for along with others on here. No turbo Subaru. Give us a high revving NA.

tranzformer · 01-05-2012, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ajc209

I heard that they want to bring out a new model every year, so you might be waiting for next years model a very long time....... I am hoping a supercharge kit will be avaliable by the time mine reaches the end of the toyota 5 year warrenty....

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Originally Posted by slizoth

There is no way the FR-S will be priced at 25k. The BRZ was annouced at 24k and Scion said it will be the cheaper of the two, nice try Top Gear.

Btw no FRS or BRZ pricing has been confirmed yet so unsure what you are alluding to.

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01-05-2012, 04:21 PM	#43
Nambo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Drives: '12 BRZ [CBS] Location: Australia Posts: 192 Thanks: 110 Thanked 48 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks davey90 for the heads up and Infernal for the scans, a really good read!

01-05-2012, 05:23 PM	#46
slizoth Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 2013 WRB Subaru BRZ Location: Oregon Posts: 454 Thanks: 185 Thanked 70 Times in 45 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There is no way the FR-S will be priced at 25k. The BRZ was annouced at 24k and Scion said it will be the cheaper of the two, nice try Top Gear.

01-05-2012, 05:53 PM	#49
coyote Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: Slowly Location: brisbane.qld.au Posts: 1,064 Thanks: 212 Thanked 539 Times in 235 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I expect this thread will get locked. Anything with facts about the origins of this car tends to go that way.

01-05-2012, 06:20 PM	#52
Dragonitti Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Drives: Boosted Scion tC, 350z Location: TN Posts: 1,779 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	"I only did one mile in the GT86, while Ollie spent a whole day with Scoob." How do you do a review with only one mile of driving? Sounded positive about the BRZ and the article turns negative with the GT86, yet they are the same car.....sounded more like politics being talked about than the actual car.

01-05-2012, 06:55 PM	#53
KevinDuMa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: 2004 Honda S2000 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 610 Thanks: 46 Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	@Mr.Jay I know what you mean, but it seemed like he really wanted people to know this was mostly builty by Subaru which is really insignificant to the test drive. Quotes like "Engine is a Subaru boxer four with Toyota direct injection. Or that's what we've been led to believe..." like hes on a mission to discredit Toyota on everything with this car. @AeroWRX I understand the restrictions, he said there was no way a Fr-S would be priced at $25grand but the review was for a Gt-86 which comes almost loaded with nav, alcantara seats, warmers, hid/leds etc. which the scion does not have but can be compared to the BRZ we will be getting here in the states which will be around $25 from what we know at the moment.

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