How to not execute a point-by at the track... - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

mav1178 · 05-26-2015, 09:38 PM

Here's a simple 3-step process to not let someone pass you at the track.

Have the slower car (my slow ZC6) catch you in a passing zone.
Point them by.
Accelerate.

Please don't be like this guy at the track.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdIE-LAbDLk"]How to not to a "Point-By" at the track... - YouTube[/ame]

-alex

rb6freak · 05-26-2015, 10:06 PM

You're not the only one. He did that to everyone all day. I let the staff know about his pointing by issues on the 4th session. If this is the same M3 on the point by group.

Edit - I just checked my videos. Same exact behavior.

FF to 1:30

[ame]http://youtu.be/C_-RSyHdnXc[/ame]

redlined600 · 05-26-2015, 11:00 PM

I owned a miata for 8ish years, welcome to my life.

mistressmotorsports · 05-27-2015, 12:25 AM

There's always one or two that don't quite get it. I was in the open group and found that people were really paying attention and letting people by without much trouble. There were only two cars in my group that didn't really "help" the passes happen, but they were both slow enough that even my stock 86 could get by after a corner or three. One was the red Starion (or whatever the Starion twin was) and the other was the green spec Miata. Everyone else was great. I tried to let people by without making them wait as well, since I was basically average in the group.

DarkSunrise · 05-27-2015, 12:46 AM

I've had idiots do this as well at the track. Accomplishes nothing as either:

1) I'm on their bumper the rest of the way after the straight, or
2) I'm forced to dive-bomb them into the next corner when they realize they needed to lift and give a second (late) point-by

Even when I give a point-by to a high HP car (Z06, M3, etc.), I find that if I don't lift, it takes longer than expected.

zdr93523 · 05-27-2015, 01:50 AM

And this is why "M3 drivers have no friends!" - Jeremy Clarkson

CSG David · 05-27-2015, 01:51 AM

I didn't have a problem.

Vracer111 · 05-27-2015, 03:37 AM

At least there is point by's on track... indoor karting is not so fun with teen/tweenagers who have no clue what the 'let faster driver pass' flag is apparently and are over 2 seconds a lap slower....

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqq1KoD1iQ8"]Pole Position indoor karting... - YouTube[/ame]

Deep Six · 05-27-2015, 08:01 AM

It's not always any better in open passing / no point by groups. Here is a parade at Sebring running behind an Infiniti Q50 ???? Lucky for me he took a wide path into T16

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORPaLTqBNwo"]5-2-15 NASA First Drive of weekend and my HPDE 4 Checkout - YouTube[/ame]

snow · 05-27-2015, 08:47 AM

hahaha I guess it happens at car track days the same as in bike ones. We always see the guys on the liter bikes go WOT on the straights, so you can not pass them and then they throw out the anchor when the turn comes up... very frustrating when you are on a middle weight bike. Most of the time you end up having to stuff them in the turn to get by...

drewbot · 05-27-2015, 09:15 AM

Do what this guy did....wait it out

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V82k5kvmsf8"]Getting a point-by from a Porsche Turbo, the hard way - YouTube[/ame]

smbstyle · 05-27-2015, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deep Six

It's not always any better in open passing / no point by groups. Here is a parade at Sebring running behind an Infiniti Q50 ???? Lucky for me he took a wide path into T16

Was that the Novice group?

mav1178 · 05-27-2015, 11:40 AM

from the same session at 86 Cup Round 6 - Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca.

Bad vs Good point-by.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QAn0DiOUes"]Bad point-by vs good point-by - MRLS 23 May 2015 - YouTube[/ame]

SeanRTR · 05-27-2015, 11:44 AM

Well while we're sharing videos of bad points, here's an AS Camaro that refused to point my Neon by....and then a good chase of a 911 Turbo that drove his ass off to avoid having to give a point....to a Neon.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG2gNR-2L1M"]The Banana First Track Day 2012 Sean Grogan - YouTube[/ame]

05-26-2015, 09:38 PM	#1
mav1178 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry Location: 91745 Posts: 6,562 Thanks: 493 Thanked 6,093 Times in 3,029 Posts Mentioned: 95 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	How to not execute a point-by at the track... Here's a simple 3-step process to not let someone pass you at the track. Have the slower car (my slow ZC6) catch you in a passing zone. Point them by. Accelerate. Please don't be like this guy at the track. [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdIE-LAbDLk"]How to not to a "Point-By" at the track... - YouTube[/ame] -alex

05-26-2015, 10:06 PM	#2
rb6freak Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 23 BRZ Location: CA Posts: 539 Thanks: 545 Thanked 686 Times in 299 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You're not the only one. He did that to everyone all day. I let the staff know about his pointing by issues on the 4th session. If this is the same M3 on the point by group. Edit - I just checked my videos. Same exact behavior. FF to 1:30 [ame]http://youtu.be/C_-RSyHdnXc[/ame] __________________ SecondGen \| FirstGen \| Instagram \| YouTube Last edited by rb6freak; 05-26-2015 at 10:36 PM.

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DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,794 Thanks: 2,164 Thanked 4,242 Times in 2,220 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I've had idiots do this as well at the track. Accomplishes nothing as either: 1) I'm on their bumper the rest of the way after the straight, or 2) I'm forced to dive-bomb them into the next corner when they realize they needed to lift and give a second (late) point-by Even when I give a point-by to a high HP car (Z06, M3, etc.), I find that if I don't lift, it takes longer than expected. __________________ "Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time." 2022 BRZ Build 2013 FR-S Build

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Deep Six Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 FRS / 2013 427 Vert Location: Orlando Posts: 611 Thanks: 212 Thanked 328 Times in 197 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's not always any better in open passing / no point by groups. Here is a parade at Sebring running behind an Infiniti Q50 ???? Lucky for me he took a wide path into T16 [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORPaLTqBNwo"]5-2-15 NASA First Drive of weekend and my HPDE 4 Checkout - YouTube[/ame] __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] 2013 FR-S Asphalt BC Coils/Rev Works UEL header/HKS Front Pipe/Racing Brake BBK/Shorai LW Battery/ACT 6 Puck Clutch/FBM Radiator & Oil Pan/JR Oil Cooler/Jackson Racing High Boost C30/Rev Works Built Motor 2016 Audi TTS APR Tuned

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mav1178 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry Location: 91745 Posts: 6,562 Thanks: 493 Thanked 6,093 Times in 3,029 Posts Mentioned: 95 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	from the same session at 86 Cup Round 6 - Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca. Bad vs Good point-by. [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QAn0DiOUes"]Bad point-by vs good point-by - MRLS 23 May 2015 - YouTube[/ame]

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