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Old 09-07-2019, 08:11 PM   #1
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p000b "engine position system performance - bank 2"

72K, No boost or tune, just got cam carrier seals redone. Something they did perhaps? Should I try to change OCV?


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Oh, I'd suggest you take it back to whoever did the work and ask THEM to fix it -


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i thought this was an OT discussion about poop.

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They used too much glue and it got into/through the ACVS filter. Either that or a little fleck of schmutz broke free and jammed the spool valve in the phasor.
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p000b "engine position system performance - bank 2"

72K, No boost or tune, just got cam carrier seals redone. Something they did perhaps? Should I try to change OCV?


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They used too much glue and it got into/through the ACVS filter. Either that or a little fleck of schmutz broke free and jammed the spool valve in the phasor.

I don't get people's logic sometimes.

Go back to whoever did the carrier seal replacement. It's not a coincidence this issue occurred after the seal redo. I don't know why you'd go STRAIGHT to replacing the OCV.....
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I don't get people's logic sometimes.

Go back to whoever did the carrier seal replacement. It's not a coincidence this issue occurred after the seal redo. I don't know why you'd go STRAIGHT to replacing the OCV.....
At least OP did some light reading. There's some logic to the suggestion but it's off the mark.
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I don't get people's logic sometimes.

Go back to whoever did the carrier seal replacement. It's not a coincidence this issue occurred after the seal redo. I don't know why you'd go STRAIGHT to replacing the OCV.....
I had read part of the Subaru service manual on P000B is to swap OCVs and see if it then throws the code for the other bank. This was before I heard the code could also be created by the glue.



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They used too much glue and it got into/through the ACVS filter. Either that or a little fleck of schmutz broke free and jammed the spool valve in the phasor.

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I wonder if I have any leverage when the dealer claims they had nothing to do with it? (service manager already tried to minimize the possibility a service tech botched something) Does it help to call SOA or anything?
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I had read part of the Subaru service manual on P000B is to swap OCVs and see if it then throws the code for the other bank. This was before I heard the code could also be created by the glue.
Yup. It's possible but unlikely. The OCV isn't actually a valve. It's an actuator more closely related to the arm on a hard drive or a speaker. A voice coil accepts a signal to drive a pin which acts on the spool valve in the middle of the camshaft phasor. It's possible that it could fail slowly by getting weak and it's easy to verify but given your circumstances, a partially plugged oil passage is way more likely.

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I seriously doubt that it will go that far. The correlation is a no-brainer. Don't wait for it to ruin your ECU by permanently throwing it out of whack. That's real.
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I wonder if I have any leverage when the dealer claims they had nothing to do with it? (service manager already tried to minimize the possibility a service tech botched something) Does it help to call SOA or anything?
The better question is, what harm could it possibly do? Fight and defend yourself, unless you like being walked on. Don't know too much, but be assertive. And above all else, do not let THEM convince YOU that it wasn't their fault.

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Yup. It's possible but unlikely. The OCV isn't actually a valve. It's an actuator more closely related to the arm on a hard drive or a speaker. A voice coil accepts a signal to drive a pin which acts on the spool valve in the middle of the camshaft phasor. It's possible that it could fail slowly by getting weak and it's easy to verify but given your circumstances, a partially plugged oil passage is way more likely.


I seriously doubt that it will go that far. The correlation is a no-brainer. Don't wait for it to ruin your ECU by permanently throwing it out of whack. That's real.
Interesting, kinda like a Phonograph Thanks!


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@Ultramaroon Thanks for the input! Using your verbage I went in there and supirsed the service manager With my knowledge. They swapped the upper OCV and got the code for Bank 2, surmising that the OCV was bad.

They replaced it no charge, and a few hundred miles later I still have no code, I guess I hope they were right, but I have got to think you guys are on the correct track, some smultz came loose and clogged that actuator, possibly that smultz has some friends still bouncing around in there and waiting to wreck something else. At Least I fired off an email to the service manager describing that posibility prior to them replacing the OCV, so if something crops up there is a paper trail, though I fear I might not win that argument... but Fingers crossed no issues. Thanks again guys
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