Do I have a Scion or a Toyota or a Subaru? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

terrypm · 05-18-2012, 09:02 PM

I picked up my car last night. When we were in the finance managers office signing all the papers my daughter looks at one we were signing and it says Subaru FR-S. The manager then says well that is what is in our system for the car. He looks through all the documents he has printed and they all say Subaru. He then takes his pen and marks out every reference of Subaru and writes in Scion.
Today I go to the DMV and turn in the paperwork to receive my tag. I get home and took at the tag receipt and it states Toyota FR-S on that paperwork.

I do not know if I should be concerned or not. All the vin numbers are correct on the paperwork. Must be a glich in everyones sytem because this is the very first one to be sold in my state.

Lonewolf · 05-18-2012, 09:07 PM

What type of dealership did you purchase the car from?

Subaru dealership = Subaru BRZ

Scion/Toyota dealership = Scion FRS

***The FRS is known as the Toyota GT86 in Japan

terrypm · 05-18-2012, 09:19 PM

My dealer is a Toyota/Scion but it is part of the Asbury Group that sells over 30 brands through over 120 dealers in the US. They are all tied into the same computer network.

civicdrivr · 05-18-2012, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrypm

Do I have a Scion or a Toyota or a Subaru?

Yes.

If it really bothers you, just go off what the title says. I just tell people its a Subaru built with Toyotas money.

df.dima · 05-18-2012, 09:27 PM

I actually have a similar thing going on. Make states Toyota. I was wondering what it means. I will find out I guess.

Guff · 05-18-2012, 09:28 PM

It was made in a Subaru plant and is being shipped out by Subaru, so I guess it should be a Subaru.

Spaceywilly · 05-18-2012, 09:31 PM

It's a Subarotion... or is it a Sciotaru? At the end of the day... it's all the same company

Stryker Trailwood · 05-18-2012, 09:46 PM

it may take a bit for it to be labeled right.
early on all scions were Toyota under brand and scion under model with no designation of which scion you were actually driving.

when i was getting insurance on my tC it was in their system as Toyota Chrysler TC by Maserati.
they thought the Scion tC was a continuation of a late 80's abom- I mean, partnership with chrysler and maserati.

TOMIMOTO · 05-18-2012, 09:50 PM

The car was engineered and built by Subaru. Toyota fronted the body work and capital to do it. So, they decided to throw their badges on it too.

Stryker Trailwood · 05-18-2012, 09:53 PM

Is my Car a:
A. Toyota
B. Subaru
C. Scion

Answer: D. All of the above

bestwheelbase · 05-18-2012, 11:25 PM

Daihatsu.

Jeff Lange · 05-19-2012, 12:00 AM

I think some systems are confused because of the WMI in the VIN being JF1 for the FR-S, which would normally indicate Subaru.

Jeff

civicdrivr · 05-19-2012, 12:01 AM

Just call it a Fuji

terrypm · 05-19-2012, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lange

I think some systems are confused because of the WMI in the VIN being JF1 for the FR-S, which would normally indicate Subaru.

Jeff

This is exactly what I was thinking. It had me shaking my head when the finance guy at the Scion dealership had it listed they were selling me a new Subie.

I can see it now, I get stopped by the police for some infraction and he runs my plates and it comes up in the DMV system I am in a Toyota. All the while every emblem on the car says Scion. If he is not a car junkie, like all of us on the forum, he will not become suspicious of me and think I switched plates off some Toyota and put them on my Scion.

I have already had several people look at the car and ask me what is a Scion. Their name recognition is not very strong to the general public.

05-18-2012, 09:02 PM	#1
terrypm First86 & burning gas!! Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Asphalt 2013 Scion FR-S Location: SEC country Posts: 392 Thanks: 112 Thanked 76 Times in 51 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Do I have a Scion or a Toyota or a Subaru? I picked up my car last night. When we were in the finance managers office signing all the papers my daughter looks at one we were signing and it says Subaru FR-S. The manager then says well that is what is in our system for the car. He looks through all the documents he has printed and they all say Subaru. He then takes his pen and marks out every reference of Subaru and writes in Scion. Today I go to the DMV and turn in the paperwork to receive my tag. I get home and took at the tag receipt and it states Toyota FR-S on that paperwork. I do not know if I should be concerned or not. All the vin numbers are correct on the paperwork. Must be a glich in everyones sytem because this is the very first one to be sold in my state. __________________

05-18-2012, 09:19 PM	#3
terrypm First86 & burning gas!! Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Asphalt 2013 Scion FR-S Location: SEC country Posts: 392 Thanks: 112 Thanked 76 Times in 51 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My dealer is a Toyota/Scion but it is part of the Asbury Group that sells over 30 brands through over 120 dealers in the US. They are all tied into the same computer network. __________________

05-18-2012, 09:31 PM	#7
Spaceywilly ZC6A2B82KC7J Join Date: May 2011 Drives: 2002 WRX Location: Providence, RI Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 361 Thanked 727 Times in 236 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's a Subarotion... or is it a Sciotaru? At the end of the day... it's all the same company __________________ Straights are for fast cars. Turns are for fast drivers.

05-18-2012, 09:46 PM	#8
Stryker Trailwood Scion Guy Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: Scions and a Harley Location: Texas Posts: 95 Thanks: 2 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	it may take a bit for it to be labeled right. early on all scions were Toyota under brand and scion under model with no designation of which scion you were actually driving. when i was getting insurance on my tC it was in their system as Toyota Chrysler TC by Maserati. they thought the Scion tC was a continuation of a late 80's abom- I mean, partnership with chrysler and maserati. __________________ FAMILY FLEET 2010 Black Currant Scion xD • 2006 Nautical Blue Scion tC 2010 RS 7.O Murasaki Scion xB2 • 2015 Blue Crush Metallic RAV4 Daily Rider 2014 White Hot Denim Harley-Davidson V-Rod Muscle

05-18-2012, 09:53 PM	#10
Stryker Trailwood Scion Guy Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: Scions and a Harley Location: Texas Posts: 95 Thanks: 2 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Is my Car a: A. Toyota B. Subaru C. Scion Answer: D. All of the above __________________ FAMILY FLEET 2010 Black Currant Scion xD • 2006 Nautical Blue Scion tC 2010 RS 7.O Murasaki Scion xB2 • 2015 Blue Crush Metallic RAV4 Daily Rider 2014 White Hot Denim Harley-Davidson V-Rod Muscle

05-18-2012, 09:07 PM	#2
Lonewolf Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Moped Location: CA Posts: 4,298 Thanks: 4,897 Thanked 2,128 Times in 1,193 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What type of dealership did you purchase the car from? Subaru dealership = Subaru BRZ Scion/Toyota dealership = Scion FRS ***The FRS is known as the Toyota GT86 in Japan

05-18-2012, 09:27 PM	#5
df.dima Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: FR-S and Mazda 3 Sky Location: Kitchener, ON Posts: 341 Thanks: 10 Thanked 132 Times in 93 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I actually have a similar thing going on. Make states Toyota. I was wondering what it means. I will find out I guess.

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TOMIMOTO Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: MY00 Impreza 2.5RS Location: NH Posts: 258 Thanks: 5 Thanked 115 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The car was engineered and built by Subaru. Toyota fronted the body work and capital to do it. So, they decided to throw their badges on it too.

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bestwheelbase Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 1985 P-Type Location: Nashville, TN, USA Posts: 3,710 Thanks: 3,273 Thanked 2,058 Times in 1,098 Posts Mentioned: 50 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Daihatsu.

05-19-2012, 12:00 AM	#12
Jeff Lange Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 1986 AE86 GT-S, 2011 Lexus IS250 6M Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 661 Thanks: 136 Thanked 361 Times in 161 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I think some systems are confused because of the WMI in the VIN being JF1 for the FR-S, which would normally indicate Subaru. Jeff __________________ 2011 Lexus IS350 F-Sport 6MT with LSD 1986 Toyota Corolla GT-S Supercharged

05-19-2012, 12:01 AM	#13
civicdrivr Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 2018 Golf R Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 2,807 Thanks: 5,386 Thanked 1,095 Times in 647 Posts Mentioned: 68 Post(s) Tagged: 7 Thread(s)	Just call it a Fuji __________________ Parting out HERE

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