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Because this is an all-new car, built on a new platform. It usually takes a year after release to hash out and detect all the quirks/faults that weren't found in prototype testing. 2014MY is when they usually get all/most addressed. 2015 and onwards you wouldn't see a lot of changes, so there's no point waiting past 2014. As an added plus, you then don't have dealer markup (which I guess won't be an issue with Scion), plus the additional possibilities of different trims being introduced. There's no real benefit to picking up one immediately, aside from very temporary exclusivity and braggings rights. |
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My Tacoma, even though it's from the US, has gone through it's fair share of recalls and TSBs. Since this car is a whole new platform, there might not be any major issues but I'm almost certain find minor flaws and tweak them along the way.
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I am still undecided. I REALLY want one of these, but I have some reservations.
First I need to drive one. Second I will not purchase until they are selling below MSRP Third I am waiting to see if there will be a turbo version for the second model year. |
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Sums up my exact position as well. Only thing that could accelerate this schedule is my current ride dying on me.
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With all this talk about dealers not getting cars, and a large demand for them not to mention no room for negotiations. People might not have a choice but to wait ;/ all we know is that they'll definitely be 86 of them out there in the next couple of months.
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well my miata has a lower center of gravity and so do lfas so i guess if we want to make blanket statements then yes, after inline 4s and v10 then yes boxers have a lower center of gravity. i dont see the need for that other stuff in a sports car
take a look at the cog of a c4 corvette and then find me one boxer that has ever made that kind of number Last edited by fatoni; 02-13-2012 at 09:26 PM. |
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I'm waiting a year or two to see how things play out. I probably won't buy anything else but the FR-S/BRZ, since a lot of research has gone into this, but don't want to deal with the hassles of being an early adopter.
I hate dealerships, my last two new cars had problems under warranty (one Acura, one Honda) and all I got was the "can't duplicate" B.S. Both manual transmission related, unfortunately. The fewer issues I have to deal with the better. |
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As for the C4 corvette, it has a much heavier engine which acts like ballast, but fair point still I guess. |
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all im trying to say is that if this car ends up being special, its not because the car used a boxer motor |
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A lightweight, Affordable ,reliable(?) Boxer engined rear wheel drive sports car.
Does no one else get a semi when they think about this? am I the only one? The whole package is just amazing ,yes the power is lacking..but i've had 350+hp subaru's before, i'm bored of power. I want to have fun. I've always Loved Boxer engines AND Rear-Wheel Drive. I've always had to Choose. Now I Don't have to.
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The use of power depends of where you live. I often drive 240km/h (kph) on the autobahn. It's like cruising along when there is no traffic.
For me, a (supercharged) 86 with about 230hp and track usable brakes would be the ideal car for everyday driving and for fun. |
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