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I'm definitely getting one | 32 | 12.17% | |
I might get one if they offer a MT | 100 | 38.02% | |
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05-20-2020, 05:35 PM | #2493 | |
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BMW engines (not talking about M engines) are really boring to drive. The wide torque band is great for 0-60 and allows you to use a high gear when cornering but they are not rewarding to rev out. Personally in a sports car I don't mind having a peaky power band because I want to use the top of the rev range anyways. I find the throttle response to be damped by the ECU for the sake of making the ride smoother. Worse yet the throttle response changes when the car thinks you are driving "aggressively". I would prefer the engine to behave in a consistent manner. Modern BMW turbo engines also don't sound good. Stock they are quiet and sound generic and with an exhaust they sound like a dump truck. Like the engines, BMW brake feel is not tuned for sports cars. This includes the Brembo brakes they offer on everything. Pedal stroke is long and very light which makes it difficult when releasing the pedal during corner turn in. Otherwise the brakes work fine. Good initial bite, large rotors means more heat capacity and there are cooling ducts built into the bumper and wheel wells. I'm not bothered by the floating calipers offered on the 2.0 because it means I would not feel bad when replaced with a true track caliper kit. FR-S has much better brake feel. Toyota and Subaru really got the brake feel right which is impressive given the "economy car" brake hardware. |
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05-20-2020, 07:19 PM | #2494 | |
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If you consider that way then yes... but Tada-san and other engineers made it as step-up car between 86 & 3.0 Supra. I'll be honest, ATM I rather skip that step and go directly to 3.0. Keyword is "ATM" if they can do something about it and give lil bit more love to 2.0 next year, my opinion will change... but for now, no thanks.
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05-22-2020, 11:10 AM | #2496 | |
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Toyota Has Some Sweet Deals For The 2020 Supra, Including 0% APR
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05-23-2020, 12:57 AM | #2497 |
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2021 Supra production has resumed at Magna Steyr
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05-31-2020, 05:30 PM | #2500 |
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Pretty good straight-forward video review, even though it's nothing we already didn't know. Not just some shenanigans from another douchey social media influencer. Lol.
Although, he does sound a bit like the GEICO gecko. https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2...098A196D45A78C |
05-31-2020, 07:22 PM | #2501 |
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Papadakis has given me blue balls for the final video. Just thought I would share.
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Ran across this today. Posted for your consideration:
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Very interesting. And weird. Weird because he and his shop-owner friend have been the only two to come out in the last 9 months, that I know of, since this car's introduction to notice and mention this.
I've seen and read plenty of remarks regarding how "playful" the back end is, but never in the negative sense he's putting it in here. There are plenty of Supras being driven daily and on track by several probably less-experienced drivers who would've definitely have suffered through many crashes if this was a prevalent case. I'd be curious to know if anyone here has read or heard of this before. Thank you for sharing @Rampage |
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I remember reading a piece from one of the major auto magazines about them being disappointed in the way the rear end acted on bumpy mountain roads but nothing to the extent that he is saying.
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Strange indeed ...
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It would be very useful to see actual toe curves...
I disagree with his notion that passing through zero toe is "bad". It absolutely isn't. The best setup I arrived at on my extremely bumpsteery AP1 S2000 had about 0.15 degrees static total rear toe-in, which means that it was definitely passing through zero toe under braking and turn-in. And it was much much MUCH better-behaved than when I ran it with a ton of rear toe-in which would have kept it from passing through zero. I wonder what his toe settings are with this Supra... |
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