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Old 06-06-2012, 02:07 PM   #15
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I'm new to driving MT so please gimme some ideas about your experience on driving manual. I got a MT frs and sometime the shifting is not smooth but sometime it is.
Best shift feel of any Toyota ever. Only other trans I have ever felt that was this good was the S2000. S2000 may have even been a leeeetle bit better than this one, but as far as I am concerned, Toyota and Subaru knocked this TL70 manual trans out of the ballpark.
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:17 PM   #16
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Anyone have any experience coming from an S2000?
I'm in the same boat as you, coming from S2k. I think we're screwed for life, comparing anything we drive to what's been described as the best trans ever made.

I sat in one today and moved through the gears, couldn't talk my way into a drive of someone else's preorder though. Not moving the throws, clicks, and sounds reminded me a lot of the S2k. Sure hope the trans lives up, I drove a WRX a while back hoping to buy one...a couple shifts of the gearbox and I knew I couldn't own that car after having the S2k.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:20 PM   #17
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I'm in the same boat as you, coming from S2k. I think we're screwed for life, comparing anything we drive to what's been described as the best trans ever made.

I sat in one today and moved through the gears, couldn't talk my way into a drive of someone else's preorder though. Not moving the throws, clicks, and sounds reminded me a lot of the S2k. Sure hope the trans lives up, I drove a WRX a while back hoping to buy one...a couple shifts of the gearbox and I knew I couldn't own that car after having the S2k.
Yeah it seems the S2k had it perfect. Not too smooth but not too mechincal. If it's anywhere similar to the S2k I'm hoping companies come out with ways to tweak it. I don't think a short shifter will help
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:34 PM   #18
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If a BMW shifter is a 10/10 (which i think it is, i get excited to change gears) how would the FRS/GT86/BRZ compare /10???
13/10

My 540I with the 6 speed manual and M3 short shifter feels like driving an 18 wheeler compared to the BRZ. And I always rather enjoyed the 540I too...until now.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:46 PM   #19
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I think it's good, but not as good as a itr or a rsx type s. The throws are shorter, but the gear shifts aren't as smooth.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:51 PM   #20
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I've done a good bit of city driving today and I feel like I'm starting to get used to the FR-S clutch. It's not bad, I'm getting the engagement points and I feel like it's not unlike the Si was. I don't need nearly as much to get rolling but sometimes I baby it and stall out attempting to avoid the 2k rpm launches.
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Does your clutch make noise ? Like when u stopped for example put in first or reverse and push it and than kinda let it go without car dying. Just ull move but more looking for the sound . I heard today that its like boom and than nboom when relese the pedal is it normal? Never had that noise with fwd but idk how it soun with rwd.
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:37 AM   #22
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Does your clutch make noise ? Like when u stopped for example put in first or reverse and push it and than kinda let it go without car dying. Just ull move but more looking for the sound . I heard today that its like boom and than nboom when relese the pedal is it normal? Never had that noise with fwd but idk how it soun with rwd.
It's hard to tell what exactly you mean... what kind of boom? I don't think the clutch should be making any kind of boom noise on any car. In my mind, "boom" is a pretty loud sound. In my car, when the car is cold and you have the clutch pedal down, I hear some chirping but not something as loud as a "boom."
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Old 06-07-2012, 07:33 AM   #23
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Which generation bmw? I've driven the 128i, and 328i (e90) and I didn't like either shifter at all. My mazda 3 shifter was actually better than both these cars IMHO.
the older generation and some of the new, like the ones they also fitted in the bmw made Mini Cooper S cars...
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Old 06-07-2012, 08:37 AM   #24
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Best described in my opinion as, "Snappy".
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Old 06-07-2012, 09:31 AM   #25
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To me, the Miata (NA or NB chassis) has the best and most mechanical shifter ever designed... the FR-S is a very close second. I equate this shift quality to BMW because it is well damped yet still slightly mechanical, with throws that are probably 30% longer than a Miata. (My NA 100% stock Miata has a 2" throw between 1st and 2nd for instance... more like a rifle bolt)
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Well its not really boom lol but its engaging but i can hear it
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