5 Reasons You Shouldn't Care About Horsepower (As Much) - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

GrantedTaken · 10-17-2019, 06:40 PM

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUO5bp-wyLU[/ame]

Joveen · 10-17-2019, 06:44 PM

Naah this car needs power.

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86prime · 10-17-2019, 06:47 PM

Definitely... more power and torque. Need like an FA20GZE or something...

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humfrz · 10-17-2019, 07:20 PM

Interesting points -

humfrz

strat61caster · 10-17-2019, 07:39 PM

small **** energy

StraightOuttaCanadaEh · 10-17-2019, 07:51 PM

Yeah no, I’d like a bump in power

Will BRZ · 10-17-2019, 09:55 PM

We can tell ourselves all we want, but there’s no denying the fact that more power would bring you a bigger smile. But hey, I’m all about lying to myself to keep me happy

why? · 10-18-2019, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Will BRZ

We can tell ourselves all we want, but there’s no denying the fact that more power would bring you a bigger smile. But hey, I’m all about lying to myself to keep me happy

Stripping my interior brought me a bigger smile. Being able to get over 40 mpg on longer trips brings me a bigger smile. Figuring out what is the lightest exhaust I can buy and mounting it will give me a bigger smile. Only thing I'd wish for is a higher red line. Like 9k.

new2subaru · 10-18-2019, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by why?

Stripping my interior brought me a bigger smile. Being able to get over 40 mpg on longer trips brings me a bigger smile. Figuring out what is the lightest exhaust I can buy and mounting it will give me a bigger smile. Only thing I'd wish for is a higher red line. Like 9k.

Not the lightest but the lightest without excessive noise 10.85lbs!

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97259

CrowsFeast · 10-18-2019, 08:00 AM

I generally dislike Engineering Explained. I guess his videos are better as an introduction to the concepts. A lot of his simplifications and slightly (but sometimes outright) wrong answers bother me.

I generally agree with this video though about light weight and usable power. My first car only had about 115hp at the crank when it was brand new. I got it used and when it was nearly 10 years old I slapped a ported and gasket-matched intake manifold on it. It only gave me about 2-3 additional peak hp at the wheels, but 25 hp more around 3k rpm. That's huge!

TunaNoCrust · 10-18-2019, 08:19 AM

I didn't buy this car for power, acceleration, or top speed. I have a car that does 175mph, my DD has a 400hp V8, and my truck makes over 1000ft/lbs of torque to the wheels.

I bought this car purely for its handling and feel.

You know what brings a smile to my face is sustaining 1.4g+ in a corner, pissing off a 600hp awd Audi because they can't catch me, getting point bys from Mustangs with 3x my power, ripping over the curbing at 100mph at the bus stop at the Glen, people coming up to you after a session saying man you were flying, power sliding up-hill through a corner in a time trial, and all this on a stock car with a factory warranty.

fang_gt86 · 10-18-2019, 11:09 AM

Let's face it guys... Not one road car is build for multiple purposes. Try to build a car that do everything and you'll end up with just another stuffed "sporty" SUV...

GrantedTaken · 10-18-2019, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joveen

Naah this car needs power.

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Says kiddie who has no clue how to drive.
Pay for a track day. Pay for a clue

GrantedTaken · 10-18-2019, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TunaNoCrust

I , getting point bys from Mustangs with 3x my power, .

How are you getting point by from a mustang? You catch up on the turn but you can't pass in the turn, so at the straight, he leaves you behind again. Little car passes going into the turn with later braking and carrying more speed. Are you racing or doing DE?

10-17-2019, 06:40 PM	#1
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10-17-2019, 07:51 PM	#6
StraightOuttaCanadaEh Wes Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: Artisan Spirits '17 86 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,794 Thanks: 1,165 Thanked 1,674 Times in 994 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah no, I’d like a bump in power __________________ Instagram: @gt86ws

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fang_gt86 FR Noob Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: FR-S Location: DFW Posts: 792 Thanks: 218 Thanked 614 Times in 318 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Let's face it guys... Not one road car is build for multiple purposes. Try to build a car that do everything and you'll end up with just another stuffed "sporty" SUV... __________________ "I'm having too much fun to care about horsepower" - Unknown 6MT FR-S Whiteout:OFT- OTS V2 Stage 2 (93oct & E85), Tomei UEL, Invidia OP, JDL UltraQuiet FP, Ark Grip catback, GS hood struts, Perrin Inlet & K&N drop-in

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Will BRZ Damn that's crazy... Join Date: Oct 2018 Drives: 2015 BRZ Location: Texas Posts: 971 Thanks: 771 Thanked 772 Times in 467 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	We can tell ourselves all we want, but there’s no denying the fact that more power would bring you a bigger smile. But hey, I’m all about lying to myself to keep me happy

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CrowsFeast Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Drives: 2013 BRZ Sport-Tech Location: Toronto Posts: 354 Thanks: 184 Thanked 179 Times in 121 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I generally dislike Engineering Explained. I guess his videos are better as an introduction to the concepts. A lot of his simplifications and slightly (but sometimes outright) wrong answers bother me. I generally agree with this video though about light weight and usable power. My first car only had about 115hp at the crank when it was brand new. I got it used and when it was nearly 10 years old I slapped a ported and gasket-matched intake manifold on it. It only gave me about 2-3 additional peak hp at the wheels, but 25 hp more around 3k rpm. That's huge!

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TunaNoCrust Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Drives: 86, 981S, RX8, 2500HD, GenesisV8 Location: Palmer Motorsports Posts: 119 Thanks: 82 Thanked 70 Times in 43 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I didn't buy this car for power, acceleration, or top speed. I have a car that does 175mph, my DD has a 400hp V8, and my truck makes over 1000ft/lbs of torque to the wheels. I bought this car purely for its handling and feel. You know what brings a smile to my face is sustaining 1.4g+ in a corner, pissing off a 600hp awd Audi because they can't catch me, getting point bys from Mustangs with 3x my power, ripping over the curbing at 100mph at the bus stop at the Glen, people coming up to you after a session saying man you were flying, power sliding up-hill through a corner in a time trial, and all this on a stock car with a factory warranty.

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