Report: Baby Toyota FT-86 also in the works

[Hachiroku]

According to R&T, Toyota is currently working on a "baby FT-86" sports coupe to slot in under the Toyota FT-86. The baby FT-86 is expected to be priced at $5000 less than the FT-86, which makes some sense since it's been recently reported that the FT-86 will come to market at a price tag slightly higher than Toyota's original $20,000 target.

Hence, the baby FT-86 sports car will fill Toyota's sub-$20k sports car slot. The rumor is that the car will measure 150 inches overall length and be powered by Toyota's 1.5L inline 4-cylinder 3SZ-VE engine, good for 109bhp. The drivetrain will feature a front engine and rear wheel drive. Rumored debut date is 2012.

[Ryuu0u]

Kinda sounds like scion territory maybe?

[JasonWin]

Hopefully this will keep things open for toyota to add some extra Horsepower to the big brother since they won't have to be quite so price conscious for that model.

[Dark]

Hmm interesting, but I dun think they need it. They should revive the big bro Supra instead of making any smaller sport car than FT-86. Just give inline 6 or Boxer 6 to new Supra, world will be in peace for awhile.

[mrtodd]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm a little hesitant to believe everything Road & Track has to say.. They've had a history of providing incorrect information on upcoming models *ahem, 370z* and I think it's safe to say that they're publishing similar misleading info on this subject as well.

Just a small example, take a look at this quote from a related article...
"From what we can learn from Gran Turismo, the car’s engine will redline at 8500 rpm, meaning this thing will be a screamer. It’ll hit 61 mph (100 km./h) in 6.1 seconds. So whatever this engine is (we suspect it’s a naturally-aspirated inline-4 with VVT-i), it’s pumping out at least 250 bhp."

Those numbers look appealing, until you hit the end. Inline-4??? Dude, EVERYBODY knows that it will be H-4 powered! If R&T can't even get the simple details down, how can we really trust them on something big like this?

In all reality, this could just mean that the FT86 is going to come in different engine flavors, with the lowly base model coming out at just under 20k. Who knows for sure, but IMHO Road & Track's info should be taken with a hefty grain of salt.

[EyeZer0]

Anybody know the last time a RWD car was priced at $15-18k? I surely don't... Correct if I'm wrong but even if this rumor was true I'm sure it would be a FWD and Toyota would never produce it in fear of stealing sales away from the Scion TC.

[VenomRush]

Originally Posted by EyeZer0

Anybody know the last time a RWD car was priced at $15-18k? I surely don't... Correct if I'm wrong but even if this rumor was true I'm sure it would be a FWD and Toyota would never produce it in fear of stealing sales away from the Scion TC.

true that

[Midship Runabout]

Hopefully 2-seater miata competitor.

[Franisco]

Has to be bogus. I completely agree with Dark here, they need to go the other way. New supra please

[A-Spike]

Originally Posted by EyeZer0

Anybody know the last time a RWD car was priced at $15-18k? I surely don't... Correct if I'm wrong but even if this rumor was true I'm sure it would be a FWD and Toyota would never produce it in fear of stealing sales away from the Scion TC.

Yes, but Motor Trend says that it will be a two door version of the Toyota Aygo GRMN, witch may keep down the price.
Also Toyota might have seen the lack of a really cheap RWD sports car, and wants to kick the asses of the new Honda CR-Z and upcoming Hyundai Veloster, with a small and cheap RWD coupe witch will handle like a dream.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...ive/index.html

Hmm interesting, but I dun think they need it. They should revive the big bro Supra instead of making any smaller sport car than FT-86. Just give inline 6 or Boxer 6 to new Supra, world will be in peace for awhile.

Everybody wants to see a new Supra on the road, but Toyota needs to learn how to walk again before they can start running, a baby FT-86 will be cheap enough for the 20 year olds, and will give the freedom to the FT-86 to be more powerful and maybe to get a V6 witch will make it more competitive against cars like the Audi TT, Hyundai Gen. Coupe, Mustang and the next generation Camaro witch will be smaller, lighter and faster. The Supra nameplate is something special, and a future Supra needs to be good enough to challenge cars like the Chevy Corvette, Porsche 911 and Nissan GT-R .

[Matador]

Originally Posted by EyeZer0

Anybody know the last time a RWD car was priced at $15-18k? I surely don't... Correct if I'm wrong but even if this rumor was true I'm sure it would be a FWD and Toyota would never produce it in fear of stealing sales away from the Scion TC.

Originally Posted by mrtodd

I don't know about you guys, but I'm a little hesitant to believe everything Road & Track has to say.. They've had a history of providing incorrect information on upcoming models *ahem, 370z* and I think it's safe to say that they're publishing similar misleading info on this subject as well.

***snip***

In all reality, this could just mean that the FT86 is going to come in different engine flavors, with the lowly base model coming out at just under 20k. Who knows for sure, but IMHO Road & Track's info should be taken with a hefty grain of salt.

^What he said.

Originally Posted by Dark

Hmm interesting, but I dun think they need it. They should revive the big bro Supra instead of making any smaller sport car than FT-86.

While I agree with this....

Originally Posted by A-Spike

Everybody wants to see a new Supra on the road, but Toyota needs to learn how to walk again before they can start running, a baby FT-86 will be cheap enough for the 20 year olds, and will give the freedom to the FT-86 to be more powerful and maybe to get a V6 witch will make it more competitive against cars like the Audi TT, Hyundai Gen. Coupe, Mustang and the next generation Camaro witch will be smaller, lighter and faster. The Supra nameplate is something special, and a future Supra needs to be good enough to challenge cars like the Chevy Corvette, Porsche 911 and Nissan GT-R .

I think this sums up my thoughts pretty nicely. Except that the FT does not need a V6 to compete with the Gen coupe (and has no place trying to compete with the Audi TT).

[Franisco]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Except that the FT does not need a V6 to compete with the Gen coupe (and has no place trying to compete with the Audi TT).

Yup. Also I really hope they don't try to compete with all of those muscle cars; Would really ruin it

[Dark]

Originally Posted by Franisco

Yup. Also I really hope they don't try to compete with all of those muscle cars; Would really ruin it

If the rumor about RX-7 is true, FT-86 will compete with RX-7. There is will a small possible chance that Nissan may be bringing back the Silvia. If what I said become true, it's like we're heading back to early 90s again.

[Jordo!]

Hmm. Until I see a concept I'm taking a "wait and see" approach to this one.