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02-05-2020, 07:29 PM | #15 | |
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You say it is advancing so fast that it is making the old stuff obsolete. This couldn’t be further from the truth. Because batteries have to be capable of charging off 120v/220v, they are all backwards compatible. It is true that basic chargers won’t compete with V3 Superchargers, but they don’t have to because we just need more at this time. Moreover, older batteries are still great for use in home/grid storage. Older EVs will make perfect used cars for many people. The other big thing is hydrogen. If anyone wants the range anxiety gone then battery/hydrogen cars will be the obvious solution. Again, we need supporting infrastructure. Also remember, this is all NEW car sales in the UK. Plenty of used ICE cars will still be on the road for decades after, unless they change the laws.
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Also, I'm 99% certain my next car will be the 2021+ Toyota Mirai. Got to sit in one last week while doing a focus group research study, I'm sold. |
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I know infrastructure is an issue, I live in Oregon. I work in the capital and live blocks from the capital building. Couldn't tell you where the nearest public EV charger is. Believe me I look as used Leafs are only about 5k.
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also an important factor is the uk heavily taxes older vehicles--scratch that, i can't find any definitive info on it except that they tax on c02 emissions...
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i have a sneaking suspicion that toyota's hydrogen push has a lot to do with the definitive vehicle expiration date, as well as the capability of using natural gas to create the fuel.
toyota is still very much "refueling ain't our problem".
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If after 100 yrs, they could build reliable internal combustion engines, my opinion on evs would be different. The manufacturers can't seem to avoid major recalls with every new model. Maybe they can handle electric motors better than they do engines and transmissions
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But there are enough powertrain recalls to make me wonder if they'll ever get it right. And notwithstanding recalls, how about throw out bearings, cvts that fail after 50k miles, 1000 dollar water pump replacements etc.
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15 years is a lot of time. So many things can happen and opinions on ICE/EV can change. Technology in vehicles can also advance drastically. We’ve seen how much technology in general advanced between 2000 and 2015. I think we’ll see the trend on car manufacturers picking up on EV and hybrid cars continue.
We really can’t say how things are going to be in 2035, so we have to wait and see. I really don’t know how they expect people to let go of internal combustion engines though. There’s a lot more of those than battery powered cars. Won’t they lose money if people decide to keep their cars refuse to buy? |
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[ame]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j52odgkRxDs[/ame] Speaking of which. What about big oil and gas companies? Like of course there will still be a big demand for it for other things, but cars and trucks must be a huge part of it. What about like 18 wheelers and all the other trucks? |
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