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Old 06-10-2015, 08:09 AM   #15
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Clearly, you know nothing about stroker kits on this unit, and don't even understand how they can compliment a forced induction setup.
You don't read so well.

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Additionally, if you boring and stroking this engine to within an inch of its life is accompanied with strapping on the nastiest turbo you can spin, obviously, you are on that next level and it tracks with what you are doing, insanity, and, again, I love you.

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I don't think you want to be convinced, but let me tell you, a 0.098 cc increase with the right forged internals offered +30whp and 40nm of torque, and it could be even more if i wanted to crank up the boost ... or if I decided to rev over 7.300

Yes the capacity increase is marginal, but the nature of the elements make the difference.
Yeah, .10 on a boost controller for a third of the money.

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On the side note of the "light is right" debate, yes you are absolutely right, but let me tell you this car with over 500hp crank and 500nm crank, gives a fairly hairy driving experience. Just respect and accept not everyone might have the same ideal vision of cars as yours.
I'm sure it does but you aren't making half that all-motor so that's moot. I see you, again, didn't read what I wrote.

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Now, to clarify, it is you money and you are going to spend it as you will and while I find it wasteful, if you are going in eyes open, know these facts, are not actually trying to beat an FI setup, but just really like the freak factor of the whole thing and you execute it well, that's cool. I totally get doing weird things just to do them and will join the chorus of those lauding your build.
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So please talk about what you know, what you've worked on, or what you drove and please spare us your non educated rants.
You say you are in Japan, you should know better ... you very should, talk to Phoenix Powers, talk to Twosystems, Talk to TopSecrets, talk to the guys at Runduce, HKS Kansai, SCREEN, name them ... We all know what's what, because that is how they build their reputation, how we make the numbers, and trust me, WE know strokers work. We very do.
All great shops with much earned respect, however, how many have full tilt all-motor cars? I know Kansai has one and boy is it boring as hell. 11 whole horsepower, buckle up Colonel Sanders!



I don't see any other than Kuhl.

There's Runduce, 480ps with a BOOSTED 2.3, but we'll allow it just for giggles. there's Rasty with 520ps on a 2 liter. Hmm, gosh.
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The #1 most beneficial $$ you can spend on this car to go faster is seat time.
Quit trying to out think the engineers and just drive the car.

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Old 06-10-2015, 08:12 AM   #16
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Why do you care if I care?
Do you care that someone cares if you don't care because I don't care that you don't care about someone caring.

Hang on a sec, I'm getting dizzy.
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Do you care that someone cares if you don't care because I don't care that you don't care about someone caring.

Hang on a sec, I'm getting dizzy.
That post had more torque than a 2.3 stroker kit!
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Old 06-10-2015, 08:51 AM   #18
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Delicious!



Sendai, oh I hate you. To have a somewhat legit drag strip near you. This place sucks for, well, anything, but the weakest gymkhana imaginable.

When I see any of these strokers holding their own around Tskuba against ANY boosted 2.0s I'll buy it. Until then, unless you are talking about Amemiya's 20B periports or one of Rising's L-gatas, I get sleepy.
wow ... Just wow, I think i won't spend anymore time arguing with you, you are empty & ignorant.
And Sendai is a beautifull place at least for the memory of thousands of people who died here couple years ago ... should that makes a difference to you or not.

Oh and by the way, the drag strip is closed in Sendai, everybody in the car scene knows that here sadly, stick your head of your a** sir.

Have fun.

Guys he is all yours i'm gonna go drive in the touge ! that'll be way more fun.
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1- The two guys on this thread from Japan are incredibly fluent in English
2-Most English speaking people on this forum aren't as fluent in English
3- How do you get >300 WHP to hook up on a 2700 lb RWD car?
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I'm American and my Japanese is atrocious, but I get by.

I don't know about him, but he seems schizophrenic, he keeps referring to himself as "we."

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Can someone please correct me

A stroker kit with th same bore would yield around 9 lb/ft more torque all else being equal?
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A+++ thread.


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Stroker kits are very viable:

1. Lube
2. Kleenex
3. Pornhub
4. Don't make a mess.
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Can someone please correct me

A stroker kit with th same bore would yield around 9 lb/ft more torque all else being equal?
Depends on the stroker....
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Depends on the stroker....

Not really

I prequalified by sayin all things being equal.

So 5% more displacement = 5% more torque y/n?
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^ Problem is Not all Stroker kit are created equal thou...
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Not really

I prequalified by sayin all things being equal.

So 5% more displacement = 5% more torque y/n?
If the head cannot flow the extra air required to fill up the new volume then you will see less torque than that up at the top of the rev range.

If the head flows well, then yeah.
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