Stage 2 Cosworth Kit Preview!!!!

[Levi]

If Cosworth is overpriced, what about Volk Racing? Can't you get cheaper wheels no worse? Why the hate against Rota?


Pathetic.

[ajc209]

I don't have the sprintex but I have witnessed the issue demonstrated. The person whom demonstrated the issue also helped develop the kit.

The original sprintex tune I believe doesnt measure intake air temps (charged temps) so heaven knows how hot the IATs are getting. The sprintex kits in the uk are using a map sensor with temp sensor. The tune pulls timing before IATs get to 70C. Its fact not an assumption.

Twin screw sc are less efficient and generate more heat which is properly why the cosworth kit has two large (bigger than sprintex) heat exhangers in the intake manifold to stop the intake temps getting damagingly high on track.

I was set on the kraftwerks as the centrifugal SCs don't increase charge temps significantly but this cossy kit my have swayed it for me.

Cost are very similar here in the uk.

This cossy kit is running at 70% capacity so it look like this has been engineered for higher power but probably requires internals and oiling changes.

[tennisfreak]

Originally Posted by Levi

If Cosworth is overpriced, what about Volk Racing? Can't you get cheaper wheels no worse? Why the hate against Rota?


Pathetic.

Well your example is not a good one.

Rota's are not a rebrand of Volks they are an entirely different wheel made to look like a Volk.

Part of the Cosworth packages are other manufacturer parts rebranded and not something they manufactured themselves.

So not a equivalent comparison.

[Jesse@JDLAutodesign]

Originally Posted by Levi

If Cosworth is overpriced, what about Volk Racing? Can't you get cheaper wheels no worse? Why the hate against Rota?


Pathetic.

I hope you're calling your own comparison "pathetic"

[OICU812]

So.....question is...

What vendor or person is getting this kit to provide some real data??

[stonenewt]

Originally Posted by ajc209

Cost are very similar here in the uk.

^^ This A quick search comes with the following prices (to the nearest £50)
Cosworth - £4800 + £550 fitting
Sprintex Stage 2 - £5200 inc fitting
Litchfield SC - £4200 + fitting
I couldn't quickly find fitting costs for the Sprintex & Litchfield setup. This is important because the Litchfield is using a centrifugal (rotrex) supercharger, it should be cheaper on parts but more complicated, thus expensive, to install.

[350matt]

Originally Posted by OICU812

So.....question is...

What vendor or person is getting this kit to provide some real data??

its a funny thing isn't it?

a reputable company posts results for their product using a calibrated dyno that uses air conditioned air to to feed the engine, controls the fluid temperatures to ISO standards and holds everything at a steady state to allow the power figures to settle and provide repeatable results

but this isn't 'real' data

unless its a quick blast up a set of rollers with no fluid temperature control, and no means of correcting air temperature and god knows what standard the rollers are calibrated to


those are the results we believe....

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by 350matt

its a funny thing isn't it?

a reputable company posts results for their product using a calibrated dyno that uses air conditioned air to to feed the engine, controls the fluid temperatures to ISO standards and holds everything at a steady state to allow the power figures to settle and provide repeatable results

but this isn't 'real' data

unless its a quick blast up a set of rollers with no fluid temperature control, and no means of correcting air temperature and god knows what standard the rollers are calibrated to


those are the results we believe....

Well how many times have pre public releases shown inaccurate #s etc? ...Often

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by OICU812

So.....question is...

What vendor or person is getting this kit to provide some real data??

We're chatting with Cosworth, as well as another (very large) company that is developing another FI solution for the FA20.

All numbers published by Cosworth are on 93 octane (MON+RON)/2

[Model Citizen]

Originally Posted by stonenewt

^^ This A quick search comes with the following prices (to the nearest £50)
Cosworth - £4800 + £550 fitting
Sprintex Stage 2 - £5200 inc fitting
Litchfield SC - £4200 + fitting
I couldn't quickly find fitting costs for the Sprintex & Litchfield setup. This is important because the Litchfield is using a centrifugal (rotrex) supercharger, it should be cheaper on parts but more complicated, thus expensive, to install.

how is this which basically amounts to slapping some brackets and dangly spinny bits onto the front of the engine. (litchfield pic)

more "complicated" and thus more labor intensive than removing the intake manifold and all that process entails?

bumper is being pulled for the ic either way far as i know.

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

We're chatting with Cosworth, as well as another (very large) company that is developing another FI solution for the FA20.

All numbers published by Cosworth are on 93 octane (MON+RON)/2

What's official (spill the beans day) on this other (LARGE) company developing another FI solution for the twins??

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by OICU812

What's official (spill the beans day) on this other (LARGE) company developing another FI solution for the twins??

Whenever they're ready... check out our IG for a hint

[Murseman27]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Whenever they're ready... check out our IG for a hint

I am very excited to hear what a old "big engine" company will come out with

[xwd]

So any more detail on what the S/C model and capacity is? I'm still guessing the Eaton TVS900.

Wish I could buy just the heat exchanger, it's actually quad-pass which isn't something you see in off the shelf applications, not to mention it bolts right up to the car. Maybe one of the dealers can get ahold of just one of them.

http://www.cosworth.com/products/pow...ture-radiator/