follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > 1st Gens: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ > BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics

BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics All discussions about the first-gen Subaru BRZ coupe


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-15-2019, 03:53 AM   #1
~el~jefe~
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Drives: 2019 MX-5 RF
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 601
Thanks: 829
Thanked 241 Times in 153 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Not a BRZ.








2017 BRZ is gone. Sold. It was cool. I will get one again, as an addition next time.

2019 MX-5 RF Club is my daily driver/only car now.
~el~jefe~ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2019, 05:16 AM   #2
86MLR
Senior Member
 
86MLR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Drives: 2002 VX Commodore SS LS1 Auto
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,203
Thanks: 500
Thanked 2,185 Times in 1,111 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Nice pick, looks good

I was tossing up between a 86 and a RF

I'm sure you'll enjoy it
__________________
Disclaimer: This post represents the official views of the voices in my head at the time of posting.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133311
I'm only here for the biscuits
86MLR is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to 86MLR For This Useful Post:
~el~jefe~ (09-16-2019)
Old 09-15-2019, 06:44 AM   #3
Yoniyama
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Drives: BRZ 2018
Location: California
Posts: 119
Thanks: 116
Thanked 65 Times in 38 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
How does the MX-5 (un-mod) compare with the post-facelift Toybaru (un-mod) for daily driving?

Ride Quality- probably just as harsh?
Agiity - MX-5 better, due to smaller size?
Fuel Consumption - slightly better in MX-5?
Noise - probably about the same (with top covered)?
Handling - ???
Acceleration - MX-5 should be faster?
Engine Harshness - MX-5 may be less harsh?
Seat comfort - Toybaru may be better?
Outward visibility - ???
Headlight brightness - ???
Steering (turn-in, under-steer, over-steer) - ???
High speed stability (against cross-wind) - about the same?

Any other significant attribute that is different between the two, especially that which was not expected before switching over?

Your subjective opinion will be much appreciated. (My other car is a 2016 Cayman, but all the difference between the Cayman and Toybaru has been well discussed, so I won't talk more here.)

Thank you for sharing.
Yoniyama is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2019, 07:24 AM   #4
Lantanafrs2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Drives: 2013 frs red
Location: South Florida
Posts: 3,517
Thanks: 2,520
Thanked 3,088 Times in 1,654 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Nice looking car! Good luck with it.
Lantanafrs2 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Lantanafrs2 For This Useful Post:
~el~jefe~ (09-16-2019)
Old 09-15-2019, 03:36 PM   #5
Summerwolf
Panda Trueno
 
Summerwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Drives: No twin now.
Location: North Indiana
Posts: 3,347
Thanks: 2,113
Thanked 2,407 Times in 1,332 Posts
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Ok!

Miata.net would probably love to read more!
Summerwolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2019, 04:50 PM   #6
Aluma007
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Drives: 2017 Brz
Location: TX
Posts: 305
Thanks: 105
Thanked 78 Times in 64 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I just sat in one at the dealership...half my noggin stuck out of the roof. Didn't think it'd be a good idea to drive it. Hope you like it!
Aluma007 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Aluma007 For This Useful Post:
~el~jefe~ (09-16-2019)
Old 09-16-2019, 01:38 AM   #7
Clutch
Member
 
Clutch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Drives: 2018 Subaru BRZ Limited (Silver)
Location: SF Bay Area CA
Posts: 74
Thanks: 47
Thanked 52 Times in 20 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
I see the butthole camera so I know it's a 2019 w/ the higher redline. Great choice.
GF has one in White making my BRZ the "practical" car in the household
Clutch is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Clutch For This Useful Post:
~el~jefe~ (09-16-2019)
Old 09-16-2019, 02:23 PM   #8
~el~jefe~
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Drives: 2019 MX-5 RF
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 601
Thanks: 829
Thanked 241 Times in 153 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clutch View Post
I see the butthole camera so I know it's a 2019 w/ the higher redline. Great choice.
GF has one in White making my BRZ the "practical" car in the household

youre staring at my butthole
~el~jefe~ is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to ~el~jefe~ For This Useful Post:
gravitylover (09-18-2019)
Old 09-16-2019, 02:47 PM   #9
HKz
Reformed
 
HKz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: '23 GRC, '11 Prius, '04 RAV4
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 1,312
Thanks: 1,234
Thanked 1,133 Times in 588 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
love the RF...not a big convertible guy but I wouldn't mind having a RF next to my 86 for those perfect AZ winter days. My only gripe with the Miata is the damn antenna, if I owned one I would definitely delete it ASAP! Now that I think about it, if it comes with an antenna, what is the point of the shark fin on the trunk?
HKz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2019, 02:49 PM   #10
~el~jefe~
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Drives: 2019 MX-5 RF
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 601
Thanks: 829
Thanked 241 Times in 153 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoniyama View Post
How does the MX-5 (un-mod) compare with the post-facelift Toybaru (un-mod) for daily driving?

Ride Quality- probably just as harsh?
Agiity - MX-5 better, due to smaller size?
Fuel Consumption - slightly better in MX-5?
Noise - probably about the same (with top covered)?
Handling - ???
Acceleration - MX-5 should be faster?
Engine Harshness - MX-5 may be less harsh?
Seat comfort - Toybaru may be better?
Outward visibility - ???
Headlight brightness - ???
Steering (turn-in, under-steer, over-steer) - ???
High speed stability (against cross-wind) - about the same?

Any other significant attribute that is different between the two, especially that which was not expected before switching over?

Your subjective opinion will be much appreciated. (My other car is a 2016 Cayman, but all the difference between the Cayman and Toybaru has been well discussed, so I won't talk more here.)

Thank you for sharing.



Ride Quality- much softer. 2017 with pp was amazing compared to most cars in NYCity i have driven. But the mx-5 club was even less harsh. Basically 0 harshness. "short wheelbase" makes it rock more on huge craters of NY City, but everything is pleasing soft on terrible roads.


Agiity - Yes, more agile. Yes, only due to size. And weight. Also, stock tires are grippier, stock for stock
Fuel Consumption - 35.9 MPG last night driving around manhattan and then on the highway with top down. I would say 20% better MPG. This is where the mx-5 is nuts, it gets over 38 on a highway going fast.
Noise - a lot louder than a sound tube plugged 2017 BRZ with pp. Big drawback.
Handling - different types of handling. I like BRZ p.p. handling the best, but this has more potential if you are aware enough.
Acceleration - hauls ass
Engine Harshness - Everyone says less harsh, I feel more harsh. that inline four design just isn't like a boxer sizzle.
Seat comfort - BRZ's alcantara seats were incredible. However, this is slightly more comfortable for a healthy body. I think the BRZ's alcantara seats are universally better for all body types. I am 5' 7" and quite fit for my age. It has perfect ergonomics, perfect. dialed in seats. Many need more support I read which is strange I feel, but they kinow themselves. It corrects bad posture. One thing is better is that it has even stronger side bolstering. Keeps you pinned.
Outward visibility - Slightly more front and side. Less blindspot, quite a lot less. Rear is about the same. MX-5 blindspot is countered by the intense acceleration when you want to dump the gear down. Blindspot is an issue with huge RF triangle piece in that viewing area. Mirrors are better than BRZ. I dont know why BRZ mirrors sucked in placement on a few levels. Strange. I loved that car though
Headlight brightness - i think they copied BRZ's lighting now for headlights. LED flat beam that stretches at same level, feels similar. I loved the BRZ headlighting, was kind of perfect. LIghting in general though is not as good as BRZ's lighting. Also, no fog lights. Weird! MX-5 has a lot of incandescent bulbs. Kind of a bummer. BRZ's lighting was superb and a one shot deal, long lasting. Figure a $34,150 car would have LED lamps all around. Not like it has a lot of lights on it. LEss than a BRZ by far.
Steering (turn-in, under-steer, over-steer) - turn in is wonderful. the car is truly balanced, very similar experience to brz/frs... BUT, the steering is more dangerous if you are not paying attention. My BRZ was easier to keep on the road. MX-5 needs more awareness to drive. It will let you die easier.
High speed stability (against cross-wind) - People complained the BRZ had bad cross wind, which i never found once driving in severe northern climates. I do not think the MX-5 is impacted by wind at all. That is something i noticed in 30 mph sustained crosswind. Could be my perception. High speed stability the BRZ with p.p. felt amazing. This thing also feels amazing. Wind noise makes you nervous how fast you are going, but it is pretty equal so far.
~el~jefe~ is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ~el~jefe~ For This Useful Post:
korhun (09-19-2019), Yoniyama (09-16-2019)
Old 09-16-2019, 02:56 PM   #11
~el~jefe~
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Drives: 2019 MX-5 RF
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 601
Thanks: 829
Thanked 241 Times in 153 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clutch View Post
I see the butthole camera so I know it's a 2019 w/ the higher redline. Great choice.
GF has one in White making my BRZ the "practical" car in the household

That will be my goal in about 1.5 years, the new BRZ will be my practical car. hah! true!
~el~jefe~ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2019, 02:58 PM   #12
~el~jefe~
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Drives: 2019 MX-5 RF
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 601
Thanks: 829
Thanked 241 Times in 153 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by HKz View Post
love the RF...not a big convertible guy but I wouldn't mind having a RF next to my 86 for those perfect AZ winter days. My only gripe with the Miata is the damn antenna, if I owned one I would definitely delete it ASAP! Now that I think about it, if it comes with an antenna, what is the point of the shark fin on the trunk?

shark fin is to warn people of shark attacks. And XM/Sirrius radio.



The styling is so freaking amazing, no one on the planet notices the antenna. It works really well though, actually gets really great reception, which makes sense as it is a real antenna and a doubled length, rare.
~el~jefe~ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2019, 03:08 PM   #13
HKz
Reformed
 
HKz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: '23 GRC, '11 Prius, '04 RAV4
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 1,312
Thanks: 1,234
Thanked 1,133 Times in 588 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ~el~jefe~ View Post
shark fin is to warn people of shark attacks. And XM/Sirrius radio.



The styling is so freaking amazing, no one on the planet notices the antenna. It works really well though, actually gets really great reception, which makes sense as it is a real antenna and a doubled length, rare.
well I noticed I only use my phone for music so I could care less about reception but yes, besides the antenna the RF is indeed a beauty
HKz is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to HKz For This Useful Post:
~el~jefe~ (09-16-2019)
Old 09-16-2019, 03:16 PM   #14
wolffbite
Just the tip
 
wolffbite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: 2017 DGM BRZ
Location: BC, CANADA
Posts: 630
Thanks: 912
Thanked 875 Times in 376 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Cool! I really like the mx-5, but sadly I do not fit in them at all and had to strike it from my list back when I was shopping for my car.

Enjoy the updated engine
wolffbite is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to wolffbite For This Useful Post:
~el~jefe~ (09-16-2019)
 
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.