Need a plan for an SC mod? Details inside

[MyRx]

If you have any desire in the future of tracking or getting the car close to redline frequently, go with the oil-fed V2 Vortech.

Oil cooler - good to have. A must have if you plan to track. But if you choose the V3 kit, no oil cooler necessary (has it's own oil and can easily be maintained). Just don't push WOT or track (HPDE, spirited drives included) on the V3.

Radiator - good to have. Stock is good up to a point.

Catch can/AOS - just make sure you cover the PCV side first.

But I have to agree, 6K may be stretching it unless you install yourself and/or prepared to live with the consequences of a tight(er) budget and a nice hp goal. Choking an FI with stock headers/exhaust system can work but getting 260hp, I'd let the pro tuners chime in. Luckily with sc, you can stick to the 2.5" exhaust, just something more free flowing than an OEM system.

[JoonPrime]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

I have no idea how you even figure 8k for a supercharger and installation. Unless they are charging you 3k for installation. If that is the case then you fail as a consumer.

youre right, i shouldvve mentioned other things i wanted to add onto the car

my apologies, not descriptive enough. and i would most certainly be a sucker of a consumer

[tahdizzle]

The OP really just needs the JRSC, Oil Cooler and installation. Can definitely be had for 6k.

[glamcem]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

It's very low priority as the stock cooling system is actually really decent. I see 103 degree temps every summer, so I just budgeted it in.

I think the aftermarket fans are actually more beneficial in situations like traffic. I'll probably invest in the FBM fan shroud for my Mishimoto radiator.

@Dezoris also tested aftermarket radiator cooling on the track and the most noticeable difference was the rate at which the temps recovered, which was faster, not necessarily cooler running.

Dezoris and I use the same aftermarket radiator (KoyoRad) and we both track our cars.. I am pretty sure it's beneficial for track use, especially for those who wants to go with an water-oil type coil cooler such as OEM piece or add an heat exchanger route since the size of the radiator will also help.. but other than that oil cooler (stacked type) should be more beneficial when it comes to oil temps..

For street, I wouldn't really bother with a stack unit and simply get an OEM unit because..well it's OEM but for track use and FL, stacked type is a no brainer

[glamcem]

Originally Posted by Drakelee117

So I've been doing some research, and I decided that I am getting an SC mod at the end of this year. Here are my goals and I could really use some suggestions.
Budget:under 6K in total, tax, shipping, installing etc.

Now: Stock 2015 limited BRZ, 6MT
Goal 260 WHP, the more the merrier as long as it's under the budget and reliable.
I am thinking about a supercharger kits probably vortech, performance wheels and tires for now. I don't know much about the clutch or pulleys, but if it meets my need, why not?
No suspension or exhaust unless it's absolutely necessary. I am concerned about the legal issues with emission and noise. Also I like the way the suspension feels right now, I don't want a super modified street racer.

To sum up, four basic principles, reliable, legal, under the budget and not too flamboyant. I am sure which brands to choose except for the SC, so anything would be helpful.

I would stay away from the Vortech SC after hearing the horror stories and customer service experience.. and if you want to stay completely legal you should also keep all the cats in the exhaust system which might be an issue in FL heat ( I used to live in FL and I know what's involved to fight with heat) ..

maybe you should read more about the Kraftwerks and Jackson Racing kits in the owners forums,

[FR-S Matt]

Originally Posted by glamcem

Dezoris and I use the same aftermarket radiator (KoyoRad) and we both track our cars.. I am pretty sure it's beneficial for track use, especially for those who wants to go with an water-oil type coil cooler such as OEM piece or add an heat exchanger route since the size of the radiator will also help.. but other than that oil cooler (stacked type) should be more beneficial when it comes to oil temps..

For street, I wouldn't really bother with a stack unit and simply get an OEM unit because..well it's OEM but for track use and FL, stacked type is a no brainer

Well put!

I like having all the support parts in place for that piece of mind knowing you're maximizing your cooling solution and taking a protective approach to an FI build, whether you drive it to work and back, or you take it to the track. Radiator, Fans, and Oil Cooler are smaller investments that protect a much larger investment. To me, that's worth every penny.

[glamcem]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

Well put!

I like having all the support parts in place for that piece of mind knowing you're maximizing your cooling solution and taking a protective approach to an FI build, whether you drive it to work and back, or you take it to the track. Radiator, Fans, and Oil Cooler are smaller investments that protect a much larger investment. To me, that's worth every penny.

I should've mentioned though, since the cold weather is not an issue in TX and FL , you guys may not need an OEM oil cooler (for the warming purposes) or a thermostatic unit, and directly get the stacked plate (air to oil type) oil cooler..

the ideal setup in my mind is the combination of the OEM oil cooler and an adapter that goes on that to accommodate a air-oil type cooler..that would be best of both worlds

[tahdizzle]

Originally Posted by glamcem

I should've mentioned though, since the cold weather is not an issue in TX and FL , you guys may not need an OEM oil cooler (for the warming purposes) or a thermostatic unit, and directly get the stacked plate (air to oil type) oil cooler..

the ideal setup in my mind is the combination of the OEM oil cooler and an adapter that goes on that to accommodate a air-oil type cooler..that would be best of both worlds

In texas, definitely central texas, there are days where I have had my car encased in an Inch of Ice.

It gets cold in Texas. Maybe not Sub 0 temperatures, but it gets cold in Texas.

[FR-S Matt]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

In texas, definitely central texas, there are days where I have had my car encased in an Inch of Ice.

It gets cold in Texas. Maybe not Sub 0 temperatures, but it gets cold in Texas.

Rarely. I think we can still make it without thermostatic for Austin and SA/Houston. Now the DF/W folks, I would consider going thermostatic as they actually see periods of much colder temps. Most days we're 40+ in January/February.

I'll just be very cautious and give the car more warmup time on the cold days to prevent issues.

[ScionOfHorus]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

Rarely. I think we can still make it without thermostatic for Austin and SA/Houston. Now the DF/W folks, I would consider going thermostatic as they actually see periods of much colder temps. Most days we're 40+ in January/February.

I'll just be very cautious and give the car more warmup time on the cold days to prevent issues.

It's a risk in Houston. Just last winter we had freezing temperatures that lasted several days, and we also woke up to 1+ inch layers of ice on our cars.

[JoonPrime]

Originally Posted by ScionOfHorus

It's a risk in Houston. Just last winter we had freezing temperatures that lasted several days, and we also woke up to 1+ inch layers of ice on our cars.

im so sorry but, is this bad for FI cars? i live on the east coast and if we get 1-3 inches of snow, its like it didnt even snow over here.

is temperature play that big a role in damaging/taking care of FI??
im pretty sure there are gonna be days i wake up with 4-6(ive seen 12+) inches of snow on my car depending on how mother nature is feeling...

[FirestormFRS]

Check with @moto_mike. He has a helluva deal on the KW kit installed and out the door. Long drive but you would come way under budget.

[DJCarbine]

Originally Posted by glamcem

I would stay away from the Vortech SC after hearing the horror stories and customer service experience..

Not trying to be an ass, I am genuinely interested in these experiences as is anyone else who has or is thinking about buying (especially OP). Any background info?

[Drakelee117]

Originally Posted by glamcem

I would stay away from the Vortech SC after hearing the horror stories and customer service experience.. and if you want to stay completely legal you should also keep all the cats in the exhaust system which might be an issue in FL heat ( I used to live in FL and I know what's involved to fight with heat) ..

maybe you should read more about the Kraftwerks and Jackson Racing kits in the owners forums,

What kind of horror stories? I intend to keep all the exhaust system but that has nothing to do with cooling right? I am considering the oil cooler like they suggested.