Innovate (Sprintex) Supercharger Owners Topic

[dontpanic]

Originally Posted by APS86

HI all,
Have had my sprintex kit fitted one week ago and amazed by how it has transformed the car - really appreciate all the info on this thread.

Have noticed that the car is a bit jittery in 1st and 2nd gear - I did notice that others have mentioned this ..... is it from tune or from torque

cheers and thanks

I was considering adding an innovate/sprintex to our car: I had the opportunity to test drive an FRS with the non-intercooled kit and innovate supplied tune... it displayed disappointing throttle response at light throttle and stop and go traffic (east coast 93pump). it was very "on-off" and difficult to drive smoothly. It was great with larger throttle applications but merging into moving traffic required more attention that it should have. The car i tested was an auto which may have exacerbated the symptoms some.
After some searching I noted others were similarly afflicted. I contacted innovate and they stated they had updated their tunes from earlier versions but still were retarding timing down low to compensate for boost ramp up. Others have suggested the problem stems from the throttled volume of the intake without the intercooler which might be solved by a blanking plug down the road. I've decided to hold off until innovate sorts this further. I laud their goal of a near-OEM seamless upgrade. The car drives so well and is so much fun unmodded I am unwilling to sacrifice in the quest for more torque. Clearly the stumbling on takeoff can be mitigated by further refining the tune but that represents an additional expense and not all of us have access to a capable tuner. I will be following closely to see what you wind up finding out. I am given to understand the intercooled kit is actually smoother but have not had the chance to test.

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by dontpanic

I was considering adding an innovate/sprintex to our car: I had the opportunity to test drive an FRS with the non-intercooled kit and innovate supplied tune... it displayed disappointing throttle response at light throttle and stop and go traffic (east coast 93pump). it was very "on-off" and difficult to drive smoothly. It was great with larger throttle applications but merging into moving traffic required more attention that it should have. The car i tested was an auto which may have exacerbated the symptoms some.
After some searching I noted others were similarly afflicted. I contacted innovate and they stated they had updated their tunes from earlier versions but still were retarding timing down low to compensate for boost ramp up. Others have suggested the problem stems from the throttled volume of the intake without the intercooler which might be solved by a blanking plug down the road. I've decided to hold off until innovate sorts this further. I laud their goal of a near-OEM seamless upgrade. The car drives so well and is so much fun unmodded I am unwilling to sacrifice in the quest for more torque. Clearly the stumbling on takeoff can be mitigated by further refining the tune but that represents an additional expense and not all of us have access to a capable tuner. I will be following closely to see what you wind up finding out. I am given to understand the intercooled kit is actually smoother but have not had the chance to test.

Try driving one with a properly calibrated tune instead of a canned tune.

[calispec]

Originally Posted by dontpanic

I was considering adding an innovate/sprintex to our car: I had the opportunity to test drive an FRS with the non-intercooled kit and innovate supplied tune... it displayed disappointing throttle response at light throttle and stop and go traffic (east coast 93pump). it was very "on-off" and difficult to drive smoothly. It was great with larger throttle applications but merging into moving traffic required more attention that it should have. The car i tested was an auto which may have exacerbated the symptoms some.
After some searching I noted others were similarly afflicted. I contacted innovate and they stated they had updated their tunes from earlier versions but still were retarding timing down low to compensate for boost ramp up. Others have suggested the problem stems from the throttled volume of the intake without the intercooler which might be solved by a blanking plug down the road. I've decided to hold off until innovate sorts this further. I laud their goal of a near-OEM seamless upgrade. The car drives so well and is so much fun unmodded I am unwilling to sacrifice in the quest for more torque. Clearly the stumbling on takeoff can be mitigated by further refining the tune but that represents an additional expense and not all of us have access to a capable tuner. I will be following closely to see what you wind up finding out. I am given to understand the intercooled kit is actually smoother but have not had the chance to test.

The non intercooled "tuner kit" with a delicious tune will cost about the same as the complete non intercooled kit with canned tune (I believe). Go that rout. I experienced the laggy throttle response down low until I switched to delicious. I am not exaggerating when I say it is completely fixed. And I am picky!!! The canned tune is done by delicious so you might just ask for an updated tune. I am not sure what might be different between the two. Canned tune is carb legal and I believe tuned on 91 so that may make a difference. Come drive mine!

[ntaphse]

Originally Posted by CK_Bladesmith

As you can see the bottle is touching the bar, which makes it a bit of a pain in the ass to take off, but it's doable. The bar also sits on the rubber connector for the intake/TB (can't even fit a sheet of paper between them) but I see no harm in this.

I just installed my intercooler last weekend, and I have the GC strut brace. On the coolant reservoir, you'll notice the 8mm hole is slotted, but the 6mm hole is not. I took a drill bit and slotted it so the reservoir could be mounted slightly closer to the firewall. It has a tiny bit of clearance now, should work.

What height are your GC spacers? They sent me 20mm initially and they damn near touched the hood. I told them about it and they said they would make them 15mm tall now.

[stockysnail]

Originally Posted by NickFRS

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Get some snow tires!

Gauges are for people that don't trust their tuner.

[stockysnail]

Question:
I'm fairly sure that if I purchased the intercooler kit and put it on my car my self that I wouldn't need to worry about tuning it as far as daily driving, at least not right away? I'd just eventually need to get a tune to get the most out of it?

[1086]

A tune is required. Otherwise... FAILURE

[CK_Bladesmith]

Anyone know what parameters to log after supercharging the car?

[stockysnail]

Originally Posted by 1086

A tune is required. Otherwise... FAILURE

So much for installing the intercooler kit myself unless I want to have it towed to the mechanic/tuner.

[1010110]

Originally Posted by stockysnail

So much for installing the intercooler kit myself unless I want to have it towed to the mechanic/tuner.

Assuming you already have the supercharger installed with a tune you should be okay. I installed my intercooler kit and flashed the intercooler specific tune a week or so later.

[wrxgoose]

Well, popped another belt.

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[stockysnail]

Originally Posted by 1010110

Assuming you already have the supercharger installed with a tune you should be okay. I installed my intercooler kit and flashed the intercooler specific tune a week or so later.

That's what I thought. I think the other guy was assuming I did not already have the supercharger on, which I do.

[stockysnail]

Originally Posted by wrxgoose

Well, popped another belt.

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If people keep popping them, perhaps we should have a spare or two in the car with the required tools in the trunk?

[wrxgoose]

I did. Secondary belt is on now. That makes 3 stock sized belts, and one smaller belt. Really starting to grow old

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