Dezoris | FR-S Build | Supercharged & More

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Dezoris

Ohlins are actually affordable for S2000 mainly because you don't have the monster strut housing and adjustable top plates.

Yep. The single adjustableness and the $2700 price tag are quite nice.

[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Yep. The single adjustableness and the $2700 price tag are quite nice.

Urge has them for 2400$ or you can go with their TTX for 7k.

[Dezoris]

If you are planning on doing extended wheel studs, ARPS specifically do it when the car is new. I only have 23k and car saw one winter and the rear hubs would not come apart so they had to be replaced, at $124 a piece.

So a simple project turned into 3 days in shop, $120 for ARPs, 300$ for bearings.



You can see the old bearing stuck in parking brake hub. New vs old.

[Dezoris]

S2000 vs 86 Platform Complete | Track Review | VIDEO

We complete the street and track testing comparing the S2000 against a stock BRZ and Supercharged FRS. In part one we talk about the details of both cars, the history, practicality and much more.

Part two compares the supercharged FR-S on the track with identical wheel horsepower as the S2000 to help level the playing field.


PART 1

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwPW0iWYTNk"]S2000 vs FRS (GT86 BRZ) Full Review | Part 1 of 2 | S02E07 - YouTube[/ame]

S2000
0:00 - 0:52 Introduction Montage
0:52 - 2:32 The History and Chief Engineer Shigeru Uehara
2:32 - 6:07 Under the Skin with Turbowski
6:07 - 9:02 Getting Inside
9:02 - 11:22 Driving Impressions Analog vs Digital
11:23 - 11:43 Learning the Hard Way - RIP
11:45 - 12:17 S2000 Final Thoughts

GT86 - FR-S - BRZ and Supercharged FR-S
12:17 - 14:12 The 86 Platform History with Engineers Tada San
14:12 - 16:10 Interior Overview and Engineering
16:11 - 18:01 Driving the Stock BRZ, FR-S and GT86
18:01 - 19:57 Driving the Supercharged FR-S
20:00 - 20:45 Final Thoughts and Track Review Coming Soon
20:45 Outtakes













PART 2:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gluk3_otoUo"]S2000 vs FRS (GT86 BRZ) Track Review | Part 2 of 2 | S02E08 - YouTube[/ame]

0:00-1:22 Introduction
1:22-1:51 Disclaimer and Leveling Playing Field
1:52-2:36 Comparing Drivers
2:37-4:52 The FR-S Supercharged Laptime
4:53-5:28 The Mythical TRD/STI 86
5:28-6:36 The real values stock vs. stock
6:37-7:07 The initial results and switching drivers

7:08-10:17 Flat out the Track Comparison
10:17-11:11 The results and impressions
11:11-12:08 Conclusion Not a race car
11:00-12:24 Thoughts on the 86
12:24-14:09 The Winner
14:09-17:03 Outtakes
17:03-17:54 Credits

[Rampage]

As always, great video. While I agree with most of your findings there is only one fact that makes me chose the FR-S over the s2000. Quite simply at 6'2" 208LBs there is simply no way I can comfortably (or safely) drive the Honda. It may be more powerful have the best four cylinder ever made and have a more sophisticated and superior suspension but it does not have enough room in the cockpit for me. My MR-S which is much smaller overall is much roomier and more comfortable than the Honda. My son's FR-S feels cavernous compared to a freinds s2000.

Doesn't matter if the s2000 is the best car ever produced on Earth. If I cannot fit in it then it is useless to me. Accessible FR-S FTW IMO.

[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by Rampage

As always, great video. While I agree with most of your findings there is only one fact that makes me chose the FR-S over the s2000. Quite simply at 6'2" 208LBs there is simply no way I can comfortably (or safely) drive the Honda. It may be more powerful have the best four cylinder ever made and have a more sophisticated and superior suspension but it does not have enough room in the cockpit for me. My MR-S which is much smaller overall is much roomier and more comfortable than the Honda. My son's FR-S feels cavernous compared to a freinds s2000.

Doesn't matter if the s2000 is the best car ever produced on Earth. If I cannot fit in it then it is useless to me. Accessible FR-S FTW IMO.

I agree with everything you said. It's the biggest problem with the S2000.
In part two I did not say it but... The engineer of the S2000, when he designed the NSX one of the primary goals was accessibility, and comfort.

I think when he went and did the S2000 he was like forget all of that lets make it feel like a prison.

[akahenry]

very nice
i like it
very awesum
sex

[Roxy86]

good battle.
was curious about this similar comparison, since few friends have well modded S2000's.

[Carmaniac 86]

Originally Posted by Dezoris

S2000 vs FRS (GT86 BRZ) Full Review | Part 1 of 2


After about 2 months of planning we bring what we hope is the best 86 vs. S2000 comparison on the internet to date. Part 1 covers the history of both cars and just how similar the goals were but just how differently they turned out.

Part 2 will be released in September covering the full performance aspects of the cars on track.

VIDEO (MAYBE STILL PROCESSING)

Whether you like our style or not your feedback is greatly welcome on what you feel was left out.


S2000
0:00 - 0:52 Introduction Montage
0:52 - 2:32 The History and Chief Engineer Shigeru Uehara
2:32 - 6:07 Under the Skin with Turbowski
6:07 - 9:02 Getting Inside
9:02 - 11:22 Driving Impressions Analog vs Digital
11:23 - 11:43 Learning the Hard Way - RIP
11:45 - 12:17 S2000 Final Thoughts

GT86 - FR-S - BRZ and Supercharged FR-S
12:17 - 14:12 The 86 Platform History with Engineers Tada San
14:12 - 16:10 Interior Overview and Engineering
16:11 - 18:01 Driving the Stock BRZ, FR-S and GT86
18:01 - 19:57 Driving the Supercharged FR-S
20:00 - 20:45 Final Thoughts and Track Review Coming Soon
20:45 Outtakes































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What are the measurements you're running for your tires?


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[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by Carmaniac 86

What are the measurements you're running for your tires?


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Currently 17x8 235/17 45mm (with 5mm spacers) But switching to 17x9 37mm 245/17 on new wheels.
Ran 225/17 on stock wheels and suspension.

[Alfalasy]

Can you share the source and occasion for this quote by Toshio Masuda.

I tried search but couldn't find it.

[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by Alfalasy

Can you share the source and occasion for this quote by Toshio Masuda.

I tried search but couldn't find it.

Its in a publication Toyota released during the development of the car. PM me your email I will send it.

[rusty959]

Sorry for being late to the "people who have had their twin to the CCSCC autocross" party. I'm pretty sure we have crossed paths before, (that or I've seen another red FR-S there) and I definitely know @feldy

Here is what mine looks like if you happened to be there the one time I had my new wheels on. Previously it was just stock tires screeching around.

[Carmaniac 86]

Originally Posted by Dezoris

Currently 17x8 235/17 45mm (with 5mm spacers) But switching to 17x9 37mm 245/17 on new wheels.
Ran 225/17 on stock wheels and suspension.

Are you going to run all four wheels at 245 for autox?


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