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King Tut · 04-17-2013, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kioton32

I called innovate directly last week and the guy I talked to said it can be pre ordered...

That's unpossible. @FRSPirate told me.

2forme · 04-17-2013, 09:59 AM

But oil temps!!!!

*looks around confused*

Oh, am I in the wrong thread?

Frostyman · 04-17-2013, 10:39 AM

LOL

FRSPirate · 04-17-2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut

I didn't bump the thread. I posted less than an hour after the new information was posted. I posted a joke. You are getting butthurt over me saying Innovate instead of Titan Motorsports or any of the other Innovate dealers who posted pre-orders. I have edited my post so that you won't have a damn aneurism.

I'm not being abrasive anymore (new day) but i never said YOU bumped the thread. For the record, was not butthurt over you saying Innovate instead of Titan Motorsports, i was butthurt that you are helping spread false info.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kioton32

I called innovate directly last week and the guy I talked to said it can be pre ordered... I wanted to get one and help them do the tune but he said they don't want to test on customers cars... He also said its not just the tuning problem... The ECU isn't reading right and continues to screw up the fuel system. They hope to have all the kinks worked out to release the kits around the end of April, beginning of May...

Just spoke to them...the rep said everything that you said they told you was true except for the fact that they never said it could be pre-ordered. The rep i spoke to at Innovate specifically told me there has never been one PO written, no pre-pre-order list ever created or anything having to do with pre-orders in general. He is the same person i spoke to and have been speaking to since the kit was introduced.

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tut

That's unpossible. @FRSPirate told me.

Do me a favor, call them. That's it. I just got off the phone with them and they said if you want to hear it from them personally to just give them a call. I'll even post the phone number for you 714-372-5910.

You can complain and joke about them all you like (though very annoying and far from useful) just do us a favor and call so that you can hear the correct info straight from them and help stop the spread of bad information.

swift996 · 04-17-2013, 01:13 PM

Remember this is the first attempt to replace the OEM throttle body that I'm aware of.

King Tut · 04-17-2013, 01:23 PM

My understanding is that it is just relocating the OEM throttle body. I don't see how that should be causing any issues. They are also leaving the OEM MAF sensor in the OEM location, so I don't see how that could be causing any issues. The new intake manifold design the intercooler and supercharger sit on top of is the only issue I could see them having. Perhaps the locaton and orientation of the port injectors are not agreeing with the car.

swift996 · 04-17-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut

My understanding is that it is just relocating the OEM throttle body. I don't see how that should be causing any issues. They are also leaving the OEM MAF sensor in the OEM location, so I don't see how that could be causing any issues. The new intake manifold design the intercooler and supercharger sit on top of is the only issue I could see them having. Perhaps the locaton and orientation of the port injectors are not agreeing with the car.

Sorry, I believe you're correct. I was thinking if they were using a different TPS perhaps it was throwing the tune all off. I just remember seeing a pic of the kit and a throttle bottle attached, for some reason I was thinking it was supplied no reused but after looking again it looks like the OEM one just remounted.

nonicname · 04-17-2013, 02:36 PM

we should all have an agreement that this thread about this company should never be addressed until someone has some real dyno numbers to post.

sw20kosh · 04-17-2013, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tut

My understanding is that it is just relocating the OEM throttle body. I don't see how that should be causing any issues. They are also leaving the OEM MAF sensor in the OEM location, so I don't see how that could be causing any issues. The new intake manifold design the intercooler and supercharger sit on top of is the only issue I could see them having. Perhaps the locaton and orientation of the port injectors are not agreeing with the car.

That dramatic bend right before the supercharger maybe?

I don't quite get it as we have a nice dyno from Australia. Obviously it works... Just bugs I guess.

R2 · 04-17-2013, 10:24 PM

Complete hypothesis here, but what if TRD decided they liked this install so much for street use that they started talks with Bullet to market it? Maybe there are zero issues with the kit but TRD is putting it through reliability testing, or in contract negotiations with Bullet for the last few months?

Sportsguy83 · 04-18-2013, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by R2

Complete hypothesis here, but what if TRD decided they liked this install so much for street use that they started talks with Bullet to market it? Maybe there are zero issues with the kit but TRD is putting it through reliability testing, or in contract negotiations with Bullet for the last few months?

Yeah, I'm sure that would push them to say in youtube comments, "numbers coming in a few days" just to keep missing it.

norsamerican · 04-18-2013, 10:07 AM

My guess/hunch/inclination is SC kit is still being dyno tested.

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