P&L Header prototype

[industrial]

Was that on e85 or pump? Looks good either way. If that's pump that's amazing...

[TouchMyHonda]

Originally Posted by industrial

Was that on e85 or pump? Looks good either way. If that's pump that's amazing...

What he said

[industrial]

Ok I see it says e85 on the graph. Nice numbers, would've liked to see what it looks like on pump. Just looks like it picked up some midrange compared to other e85 tunes.

[Frostyman]

oh boy oh boy oh boy.

[wootwoot]

Originally Posted by industrial

Ok I see it says e85 on the graph. Nice numbers, would've liked to see what it looks like on pump. Just looks like it picked up some midrange compared to other e85 tunes.

X2. I don't care about corn at all..... Don't have it around here. Pump gas numbers PLEASE. :happy0180:

[xjohnx]

Is that pump vs e85+header? or e85 baseline vs e85+header?

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

Is that pump vs e85+header? or e85 baseline vs e85+header?

Sorry guys, I'm currently at work and don't have much time to respond (bartender) when i finish up i will have answers to all your questions. That is stock vs full exhaust+ e85. Check page 1 for pump numbers.

[FA20Club.com]

Originally Posted by P&L Motorsports

Quick update from the day:

First and foremost, big thanks to Hawaiian, and Tony at FA20Club. R&D is usually a pain, but it helps when the parties involved are all competent and helpful. So, thanks again guys.

Onto the day... After several dyno pulls and back-and-forths for new tunes, we were 1.09HP away from 200. Next time. However it did still put down some lovely numbers.



Also, some valid concerns were raised while doing the testing. The major one I wanted to cover is STX compatibility. We are happy to say that we will offer an STX friendly catted version of the Header for all you SCCA AX'ers out there.

-Dylan@P&L


Edit: @Hawaiian -- We have your laptop charger.

Thanks for the making today a smooth operation the guys @ P&L are a class act and Hawaiian is dedicated like no other

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by P&L Motorsports

Edit: @Hawaiian -- We have your laptop charger.

I knew I forgot something at the shop. I'll get it monday.

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com

Thanks for the making today a smooth operation the guys @ P&L are a class act and Hawaiian is dedicated like no other

So, now for the big love-fest.
@FA20Club.com Thanks for taking the tuning task short notice, and Thanks again for being understanding when we had to push it back 5 days. You did a great job, and I wish I didn't have to leave for work and take my car off the dyno. I know we left more power out there.
@P&L Motorsports Thanks for lunch, and the great parts. See you monday. I knew I was forgetting something as I was rushing out of there.

From my experience today I would recommend Fa20club to people needing a quick custom tune that's done well. He took the job to build an e85 tune on very short notice, and had gains on every new map sent. We had started this morning with his base map getting 191hp and 149 tq, and 6 tunes later (all done by E-mail in a few hours) we were up to 199, and 155, all while he was tuning 2 other cars and driving between his dyno, and shop. As I stated before, He had more that he wanted to do with the tune, but my work had other plans. I only wish I was in the same state to get a full session with him.

On monday I will be doing more fitment and testing for the catted version of the header. The part does make power, especially in the midrange. It's very noticeable over stock, and you don't need a dyno to tell you otherwise.

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

From my experience today I would recommend Fa20club to people needing a quick custom tune that's done well. He took the job to build an e85 tune on very short notice, and had gains on every new map sent. We had started this morning with his base map getting 191hp and 149 tq, and 6 tunes later (all done by E-mail in a few hours) we were up to 199, and 155, all while he was tuning 2 other cars and driving between his dyno, and shop.

Agreed fully here. The difference between the last E85 map @FA20Club.com sent me and the most recent one is amazing. Much more power throughout the rev band and much smoother power delivery as well. I'm going to put a little more road time on it this morning before capturing the latest set of datalogs, but damn, feels good.

[BRZGT86]

Any pics of the header?

[Mars2]

How is the Dyno curve before 3200 rpm?
do you also have a dip like Nameless?

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by BRZGT86

Any pics of the header?

Nothing yet, it's still "in testing" so they don't want to release anything until it's finished.

Originally Posted by Mars2

How is the Dyno curve before 3200 rpm?
do you also have a dip like Nameless?

I don't notice one, but i don't have an incredibly accurate butt dyno. I'll try a few virtual dyno pulls tonight when i get off work.

I did talk more to Paul yesterday, and i think people will be very happy with the price aswell when they announce it.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Mars2

How is the Dyno curve before 3200 rpm?
do you also have a dip like Nameless?

These graphs start after the dip in the Nameless dyno chart and if they're using only the first pull after ECU reset there won't be a dip.