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07-18-2018, 05:30 AM | #2843 |
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Oh I thought confidentiality was thrown out the window. It is very relevant if we consider that to be the case.
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07-18-2018, 06:33 AM | #2844 |
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what I'd guess would happen is they push the twins downmarket. Pricing it at or below $20k would help it immensely.
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The Yen went nuts right before they were officially announced and they had no choice but to bump the price up. With a new gen they can figure out how to drop the price, because it really is needed. |
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I am well aware of what I may or may not discuss according to company policy. An unidentified document that is posted online is not on the list. How big a company do you think ZF is anyway? The tranny division isn't even remotely linked to the division I work for and I sure as hell did not release the document to the Supra forum where it originated. I have never publicly implied anything about where I worked other than it was a "major automotive parts supplier" so not sure what your angle is when YOU were the one to make the statement and call me to this thread. Ya not the best thing since you never know what sort of hypocritical, whiny, manchild will break their promise of confidentiality in order to try and discredit you.
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Nah. They are not going to be able to trim 30% off the price of the 86. If they did there would probably not be much demand for any version that could be offered at that price anyway. The whole idea of this 4 cylinder Supra is based off a list of transmissions from an unknown source. There is zero info anyplace else to support such a car will even exist. Even that list already shows one 4 cylinder version struck from the "production plan". If by some weird chance they actually did this then the 4s would probably be the $40K car everybody seems to expect and the others in the $50 to $70K range. I truly don't see much of a market for a 4.
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Ok, this is starting to get non-sense. You mentioned in the past more than once in public that you are working for ZF. You were even volunteering to order some parts from Europe or help members to get in touch with the appropriate people in your company or something like that. I don't remember the complete details. Maybe Tcoat didn't want to get mentioned and maybe it was my mistake, although I don't remember promising anything about confidentiality, but your case is entirely different. What is your issue if I wanted rvoll to know with whom is talking?
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Road & Track web editor Chris Perkins had the chance to speak with Supra chief engineer Testsuya Tada at the Goodwood Festival of Speed a few days ago, and the Toyota employee confirmed that there will indeed be a four-cylinder Supra. Tada also elaborated, saying the four-cylinder Supra will be lighter, with "much better weight distribution" and a sharper-feeling turn-in. Tada also remarked that, for the Supra owners who plan to swap in a 2JZ engine, "please buy the four-cylinder. It will be cheaper." https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ylinder-supra/ |
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I never offered to order anything from Europe for anyone, and only offered to connect people with the correct parties to order SACHS coilovers if they were interested. Since for most people that's the only way to get a hold of them. I was trying to keep my place of work out of this conversation because I knew it'd cause the sort of unfounded speculation that rvoll went straight to, namely that I'm a company plant trying to save face. Which couldn't be further from the truth. Like Tcoat hinted at, ZF is a HUGE company. For all intents and purposes, I work for a totally different company than where this leak may have potentially come from. I was simply trying to get to the idea that I'm someone within the industry who has a better understanding of how things work within it. I don't necessarily have an issue with you letting him know where I work, I know I've made it somewhat public on here before and he could easily find that out if he did some very light digging within the forum. My issue came more from this post of yours: Quote:
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I find it hard to believe that after all this time and all the speculation on this the fact there will be two versions of the Supra comes out of the blue during an interview. Won't be long before we know the reality anyway. If I was mistaken in my OPINION I will be glad to say so.
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Tada has been saying all along that there would be 3 Toyota sports cars. Speculation has been that the MR2 would be making a comeback but I have always been skeptical of that. It makes a weird kind of sense that they would leave the 86 as the low end sports car, the 4 cylinder "Supra" as the middle sports car and the 6 cylinder Supra as the top of the line sports car. My guess is that the price ranges will be $30K for the 86, 42-45K for the 4 cylinder and 55-63K for the 6 cylinder.
There have been rumors all along that the Supra would be a turbo 4 and there were rumors that the Supra would be a turbo inline 6. Maybe both were correct. We will see in a few more months. I do not believe for a moment that the Supra 4, if it indeed exist, is intended to replace the 86. It is simply going to be too expensive.
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Volume manufacturers have to price high initially then offer cashback, APR discounts, lease subventions, military and college grad rebates, accessory package deals, free maintenance, free in-house extended warranties (about what they're worth) and will deliver to your door. Cashback gets pretty juicy. For the past two months, Avalon had $5K cash back on any model '18's to make way for the all new '19's. I'm hoping for something similar on leftover '19 86's in a year if '20's become the rumored v. 2.0. |
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