FR-S / BRZ reliability stats

[Minhtyfresh]

Originally Posted by Rayme

What brand, cadillac? Kidding aside, most luxury brands are built with much tighter tolerance than cheap cars. Holds true for lexus versus a Yaris. Everything from panels gaps to interior noise and even glass thickness is much much better in Lexus cars than Toyotas.

Oh for sure. Lexus is ranked #1 in quality for the most part. They even have silly cleaning procedures added to some of their part suppliers to ensure no contaminants reach their products. But I did say "many" and not "all" There are obviously quite a few brands that claim luxury, but don't come with the extra quality.

[mkaresh]

We've updated our reliability stats for the FR-S to include owner experiences through September 30, 2013.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2013 FR-S: 48, moderate

We have two additional statistics, "Nada-odds" and "Lemon-odds", to indicate the percentage of cars with no repairs in the past year and those that required 3+ trips to the repair shop:

2013 FR-S: 61, 3

We'll have further updates in February and in May. The more owners participate, the more comprehensive and precise these will be.

To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:

Scion FR-S reliability ratings and comparisons

[N1rve]

I really hope that the FRS doesn't have a bad reliability rating... I just got out of a lemon.... X__X

[mkaresh]

It's going to have a somewhat bad score at least until these initial problems are past. But I wouldn't personally be concerned given the nature of the problems.

[kjdd787]

Originally Posted by N1rve

I really hope that the FRS doesn't have a bad reliability rating... I just got out of a lemon.... X__X

Was your frs a lemon? I needed my coil pack replaced already been to the dealership 7 times hopefully the new coil pack will keep the CEL off

[kjdd787]

Originally Posted by kjdd787

Was your frs a lemon? I needed my coil pack replaced already been to the dealership 7 times hopefully the new coil pack will keep the CEL off

Complete engine failure

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[mkaresh]

Originally Posted by kjdd787

Complete engine failure

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This was with the FR-S, or a different car? I assumed the latter when I first read your post.

The problems typically reported for the FR-S aren't the sort that would keep me from buying a car, but different people have difference tolerances.

[dnieves]

Originally Posted by mkaresh

Virtually none. Unless owners have been messing around with the tail light seals

We had a weird shift in weather (from mild winter to artic) and I noticed light condensation in my tail lights twice -the only time I ever touched the taillights was while washing the car. If someone verifies that this can never happen with the TOMS taillights then I'll swap them tomorrow.

[FRSure]

I think reliability is okay as liong as it doesn't get in the way of driving.
Tail light condensation - No problem.
Engine problems are any problems under the front hood = nono

[FirestormFRS]

Originally Posted by regal

Would like to know how many blown engines, several reports on this forum. Not normal Toyota reliability. This is more like German sports cars, with high maintenance and low reliability.

Not a Toyota engine....

[fistpoint]

Originally Posted by FirestormFRS

Not a Toyota engine....

Not a Toyota, period...well, the annoying as hell fuel pump, the key fob, the direct injection system, and about 2 other tiny parts.

Subaru is and always has been at least 1 step below average in quality according to all the literature I researched prior to buying.

Hondas and Toyotas have always been 1 step above average, so, 2 steps above Subaru. We got what we paid for, it's exactly as expected.

[reeves]

I'm glad I didn't read this reliability report before purchasing my BRZ, I might've been too hesitant to buy one.

[dnieves]

Maybe there should be extra survey questions:

Has your car left you stuck and requiried a tow (accidents excluded)?
If so, was this a warranty repair? Was it fixed the first time?
Does your car suffer from quality issues that impact its mobility?
Does your car suffer from quality issues that do not impact it's mobility?
Have you performed any modifications to intake/engine/exhaust/electrical/ECU/suspension?
If so, what was modified?

[mkaresh]

The survey gathers all of this information. Tows are rare for any car in its first few years. With the latest update we've added a second set of stats that only includes powertrain and chassis repairs--things that could impact mobility. These are 1/3 of the total for all 2013 cars, but rise to 75% of the total for 2003s.