Fun facts from a Subaru dealership in Newcastle today - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

adamc · 10-07-2012, 04:43 AM

Got some fun facts from the sales lady:

Cars are now apparently being built 8:1 Subaru:Toyota
Differences between the 86 and BRZ are bumper, suspension and .....brakes????
Lead time for an 86 is now 22 months or 26, can't remember which
Ancap safety rating applies only to the BRZ, not the 86

She then proceeded to ask if we really wanted to buy or were just dreaming...

I honestly wonder how she manages to sell anything.

70NYD · 10-07-2012, 05:03 AM

I know GTS has bigger, ventilated brakes compared to the GT
Don't know how this carries between the brz, gt and gts

whyreeto · 10-07-2012, 06:21 AM

8:1 brz to 86? i hope that is only for 2013 lol, or else she is lying to ur place when there were only 200 brz allocated for 2012??

MarkMash · 10-07-2012, 09:12 AM

very fun facts

church · 10-07-2012, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamc

Got some fun facts from the sales lady:

Cars are now apparently being built 8:1 Subaru:Toyota
Differences between the 86 and BRZ are bumper, suspension and .....brakes????
Lead time for an 86 is now 22 months or 26, can't remember which
Ancap safety rating applies only to the BRZ, not the 86

The brakes on the brz are actually marginally larger than on the GTS, its on a comparison somwhere. But ANCAP has been done on both cars and the same rating has been given to both... So sounds like exageration and BS, as usual lol

kwood9000 · 10-07-2012, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamc

Got some fun facts from the sales lady:

Cars are now apparently being built 8:1 Subaru:Toyota
Differences between the 86 and BRZ are bumper, suspension and .....brakes????
Lead time for an 86 is now 22 months or 26, can't remember which
Ancap safety rating applies only to the BRZ, not the 86

She then proceeded to ask if we really wanted to buy or were just dreaming...

I honestly wonder how she manages to sell anything.

This is probably specific to the Subaru plant, FHI, which makes more than the 86 and BRZ. They produce a lot of Subarus including the Legacy, Impreza, WRX STI, Forester, etc. so the 8:1 Subaru:Toyota stat is meaningless. Ask her how many BRZs vs 86/FR-S...

86 gts · 10-07-2012, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamc

Got some fun facts from the sales lady:

Cars are now apparently being built 8:1 Subaru:Toyota
Differences between the 86 and BRZ are bumper, suspension and .....brakes????
Lead time for an 86 is now 22 months or 26, can't remember which
Ancap safety rating applies only to the BRZ, not the 86

She then proceeded to ask if we really wanted to buy or were just dreaming...

I honestly wonder how she manages to sell anything.

Same story for me at Subaru Newcastle
Was told that I should order a BRZ because there were 9x more BRZs than 86s being imported
I made one attempt to correct them, but gave up
That bombshell was followed by a myriad of other idiotic statements
Needless to say, I went for the exit ASAP

ZZT86 · 10-08-2012, 08:44 AM

BRZ over 86 production split highly unlikely considering Toyota owns almost 20% of Subaru !!

HunterGreene · 10-08-2012, 08:48 AM

Some things should never be trusted--including information from Salespeople. They are there to sell you the car, not to get the facts right.

catcha · 10-08-2012, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamc

She then proceeded to ask if we really wanted to buy or were just dreaming...

I honestly wonder how she manages to sell anything.

Two things I would of done, if someone said that to me, either grab the next salesperson and do the deal right in front of them.

or go to another dealer, buy it then when you get it drive it there and stick it to the bitch

czar07 · 10-08-2012, 10:13 PM

i thought you can only buy it online?

DriftEightSix · 10-09-2012, 06:27 AM

lol at "Ancap safety rating applies only to the BRZ, not the 86"

They are the same car with the same safety features and everything...

Yes the BRZ was only tested but it surely doesn't make it not the same safety... just doesn't have a pretty 5 start on it as it wasn't tested.

Orange86er · 10-09-2012, 08:22 AM

Thanks for sharing ADAMC.
And I thought those I spoke to were a little short on information.
I laughed a lot.

Bounce · 10-09-2012, 09:37 AM

lol I walk away when shit like that happens, I can't take it...

10-07-2012, 05:03 AM	#2
70NYD Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Drives: RX8 S1 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 1,396 Thanks: 49 Thanked 50 Times in 38 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I know GTS has bigger, ventilated brakes compared to the GT Don't know how this carries between the brz, gt and gts __________________

10-08-2012, 10:13 PM	#11
czar07 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: '97 RSP JZZ30 GT-T Location: Australia Posts: 612 Thanks: 365 Thanked 192 Times in 101 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i thought you can only buy it online? __________________ Germans>Japanese>Italians>Americans. Unless its a Corvette.

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DriftEightSix Pegasus White Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 86 Location: Brisbane. Posts: 973 Thanks: 646 Thanked 126 Times in 104 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	lol at "Ancap safety rating applies only to the BRZ, not the 86" They are the same car with the same safety features and everything... Yes the BRZ was only tested but it surely doesn't make it not the same safety... just doesn't have a pretty 5 start on it as it wasn't tested. __________________ Driving: Pegasus White Manual GTS 86.

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