Feeler: 2013 Turbo Whiteout FR-S

[Supermassive]

First off, this post is just a feeler, to gauge interest in my car and how feasible it would be to sell it for what I would like to get for it.



What I want to possibly sell is my 2013 Whiteout FR-S. Some of you may have follwed my build or have seen some of my posts so here's a link for anyone not in the know: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13381

Basically I have built this car for turbo use and have barely scratched at the power potential of my current setup...basically all I am missing is some tune work. I have the base tune that Visconti did for my car when he came out to set up a base tune to sell to P&L for their kits so in essence the base tune was tuned specifically for this car. I have a pretty extensive list of parts that have been added to the car as well:

P&L Motorsports Stage 1 Turbo kit
Red Wrinkle Coating
Fuel Pump & 700CC DeatschWerks Injectors
EcuTek Cable/License/Base Map
4 Bar MAP Sensor
P&L Motorsports 2.5" Overpipe
P&L Motorsports 2013+ BRZ/FR-S Front Pipe
P&L Motorsports Street Series Catback Exhaust System
AEM Failsafe Gauge
Prime Motoring Gauge Cluster
Agency Power Lightweight Crank Pulley (Red)
Agency Power Adjustable Rear Lower Control Arms
GrimmSpeed Oil Filler Cap Billet Aluminum
Whiteline Positive Shift Kit Bushing
Whiteline Positive Rear Crossmember Mount Insert Bushing
Clutchmasters FX400 6 Puck Clutch/Flywheel
KW Suspension Variant 3 Coilovers
Rays Gram Lights 57 Extreme Wheels (Satin Black) 18x8.5 (x2)
Rays Gram Lights 57 Extreme Wheels (Satin Black) 18x9.5 (x2)
Nitto Invo Tires (235/40/18) x2
Nitto Invo Tires (255/35/18) x2
Muteki Lugnuts - RED CLOSED Ended
Tactrix 3-Port Electronic Boost Control Solenoid
Speed By Design 290LPH Fuel Pump
Subaru BRZ Rear Diffuser
Seibon TS-Style Carbon Fiber Hood
Seibon Carbon Fiber Rear Fin Spoiler
Seibon SN-Style Carbon Fiber Rear Spoiler
Billet Pro Shop Short Shifter (Red)
Team Voodoo Shift Knob Magnum Pearl
Pioneer AVIC-X940BT Navigation Head Unit
Cusco Vertical Mount Air/Oil Separator
Password: JDM Carbon Fiber Manifold Cover
Password: JDM Carbon Fiber Fuse Box Cover
Password: JDM Strut Tower Bar and Brace Kit (Custom Orange Anodized)
Password: JDM Engine Dress Up Kit (Orange Anodized)
Wilwood BBK - 6 Piston Super Narrow Calipers (Front Only)
Wilwood Slotted 12.88" Rotors
Wilwood Stainless brake Lines (Front)
Spiegler Stainless Braided Brake Lines (Rear)

Before selling the car I have a few things I plan on doing to the car to include:

Replacing the Front Windshield due to random rock chips
Repairing the rock chips in the front bumper to like new condition.
Recoating the rear wheels to address rock chips on the lips (poke looks good but rocks dont like it much)
Replacing the tires with BF Goodrich g-Force Sport COMP2 tires
Recoating the Intercooler piping in Blue
Buying a 12-14PSI pump gas tune tune from Visconti and dyno tuning it.

Some details about the car currently:

12500 miles on the car (10k on the turbo)

This car has never been tracked or raced, but I have had it faster than most sane people drive.

All fluids (Engine/Transmission/Diff) are running Motul 300 series products
I still have the stock exhaust, hood, clutch, and brakes.

The headlights are blacked out with gloss black paint.

The springs on the KW's have been swapped front to rear to aid rear end traction for harder launches and more confidence coming out of turns on the gas.

The doors have been dynamatted to reduce vibrations

The high pressure fuel pump was replaced under warranty but the new one still chirps.

All work on this car has been perfomed by myself (except for the HPFP) and the stock warranty is still valid...but as you can see not much of this car is untouched so it may be a moot point.

I keep the car garaged, and waxed regularly so the carbon is still black as the day I got it, but I would recommend to anyone to get the hood cleared or painted if you aren't able to garage it.

So with everything totalled up this car has nearly $30k worth of parts not to mention what it would cost for someone to put this all together. So realistically if everything was brand new this might cost someone around $60-65k. Taking into account the fact that it is used, and has minor blemishes (rock chips) would I be out of my mind hoping for $45k-$50k for this car?

Serious responses only please, I really am interested in trying to keep this car in the hands of the community so when I do decide to sell it it will be posted here first, so I want to know what I should ask for the car. Anything less than $40k is a joke because I've seen modded N/A FR-S cars go for $40k. Anyways hopefully I can get some insight as to what I should start asking at, what I should realistically expect, and what the average minimum I should settle for if no offers come through.

[YourFearlessLeader]

Your buyers marker is going to be very very small with the modifications. To be very frank with you, I would imagine the car selling in the high 20s to low 30s.

[GTB/ZR-1]

Unfortunately, I agree with above--your market narrows tremendously with a heavily-modded car like yours.

I've been down this path a time or 2, and have found the hassle & time consumption of parting out to ultimately be the way to go... Your car is extremely well done & the parts are top-notch, so you'd get good $ for them. Otherwise, it's quite a loosing predicament to get what you really want out of it as it sits--unless that 1 unicorn buyer buys it & gives you the # you'd be satisfied with...

Just my .02 from a guy modding cars for close to 30 years (damn, I'm old! Lol)

Good luck in whatever you decide, and your car is certainly, Supermassive!

[FR-S86]

Sold my turbo FRS 1500 miles on car for low 30s couldn't get more :/

[n2oinferno]

45-50k probably won't happen. If you want to make more money back, part the car out and sell everything individually.

A car with that much work is a very niche market. You're competing with a new Vette at the prices you want.

Granted, anything is only worth what people are willing to pay for it, so it's possible, but I wouldn't count on it.

[10splaya22]

45-50 definitely won't happen. Part it out if you want to get the most money back. You can buy a nice C6z for that price.

[switchlanez]

You've got nice mods but when people have every opportunity to buy brand new for a LOT less, they will. The only situation I see this selling easily is after this car has been discontinued with the market saturated with high mileage, beat up, or raced out ones with hardly any stock examples. Then yours might stand out as being well cared for even with its mods. That's how I was able to sell my Celica, mods intact, for more than what most Celicas were posted for on Autotrader.

If you want to maximize your return, you've gotta part out. I tried to sell a less commonplace car (MR-S) modded with top notch JDM rare stuff and quality JDM OEM upgrades. No takers. Reverted to bone stock, knocked off 1/3 of my asking price, and it sold quickly... for the same price at which I originally bought it. I spent the following weeks steadily selling each remaining part. All totaled back up to my original asking price in the end. Put the work in, get cash out.

[hunter3232792]

wonderful car i dont know if you will get what you want but still goodluck

p.s ill be more than glad to buy some parts off of you

[JDMenrique]

im not trying to be rude but realistic. youre selling a specialty item now and the market is drastically reduced. im not saying that your mods are not tasteful or anything of that nature, i like the car. i think you could command $35-$40k, regardless of how much you spent. i think it would be very difficult to find a buyer willing to spend over $40k on an used mid $20K car with less power and amenities as a stock luxury or sports car at the range.

[Soravia]

I agree with the others. Try to put back to stock as much as possible and you'll make a sale.

[mact]

Why are you selling? Just curious. Seems like a lot of people that put a lot of money into their cars end up selling them after a short while.

[kkakonn]

As fellow enthusiasts we can all see the tremendous amount of work time and not to mention money into your car. And I definitely see 45-50k worth as a whole. However think of it as a buyer, if you had 50k to spend on a car would an frs be your first choice? its not to say its impossible its just going to be a long and difficult process. If your main concern is to get as much of your money back i would probaby part everything out. Either way wish you the best of luck.

[King Tut]

I haven't seen the OP post in awhile. Does he still have the car or did it sell?

[koyv90]

I would give 32k-34k but anything else is really high it seems.