Hella Fail - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

SubieNate · 01-02-2013, 04:24 PM

To those that only care about stance. This is why the rest of the world really, really "hates on" your style preferences. This may be an extreme example, but this car was simply put, a lethal accident waiting to happen.

Tire fitment that is unsafe and outside of the manufacturer's intent for the tire. Serious chassis damage due to the amount of lowering. ZERO suspension travel, making it extremely easy for the tires, which are already poorly fitted, to be shocked much harder than they are intended to while driving.

This is probably an extreme example, but it's likely not the only one. It's not just about the reduction in performance. It's about the potential danger cars modified like this pose to their occupants and those driving near them in other cars.

http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_artic...ella-fail.aspx

Flame away.

Cheers
Nathan

Tansey86 · 01-02-2013, 04:43 PM

Doing this to the FRS/BRZ is a slap in the face to the engineers who designed such a well balanced car.

Bring this article to a VW forum and they will throw a fit.

SubieNate · 01-02-2013, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tansey86

Doing this to the FRS/BRZ is a slap in the face to the engineers who designed such a well balanced car.

Bring this article to a VW forum and they will throw a fit.

I agree completely, but I've seen some that are way too low and requests on how to, "slam my FR-S" here more than once.

Nathan

gmookher · 01-02-2013, 06:15 PM

I didnt say it this time...

OrbitalEllipses · 01-02-2013, 06:21 PM

IBTL

bpracer · 01-02-2013, 10:46 PM

This one is funnier, it was in one of the replies to the first link:

http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-g...d-fitdeez.html

His build thread:

http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-g...z-ssm-ge8.html

Edit: Ok, I admit it, I'm old, but come on...

http://www.stancenation.com/2012/11/...verage-part-1/

robispec · 01-03-2013, 03:41 AM

we are LOW but we did it right

Lowered the car 3" with a combination of tire size and custom suspension components that yield stock camber gain curves,lowered Center of gravity, corrected roll center, bump steer and stock travel on the suspension (though we do change the compression vs droop limits).

I was able to take the car to the local dealer and get side by side shots. We also had it out to the Redline time attack but showed up late and ran in the rain shower session...I did have a member here drive the car and get his impressions He can chime in if he wants to.
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nose to nose

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chulooz · 01-03-2013, 03:48 AM

Low is one thing, but slammed in another.

'my cash, personal taste, dont hate' doesnt matter, you are still ruining a well functioning machine.

seven · 01-03-2013, 04:35 AM

As much as I'm not a fan of Mike Kojima, its a legitimate article.
Retarded stuff there.

JP · 01-03-2013, 05:52 AM

I was waiting for this to be posted:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGu8FPRDiSk&feature=player_embedded"]ДТП на ттк 30.10.12 - YouTube[/ame]

#87 · 01-03-2013, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpracer

This one is funnier, it was in one of the replies to the first link:

http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-g...d-fitdeez.html

His build thread:

http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-g...z-ssm-ge8.html

Edit: Ok, I admit it, I'm old, but come on...

http://www.stancenation.com/2012/11/...verage-part-1/

So I was looking at the pics and this one stood out to me.

When you see it you will shit bricks.

Hint: top left

brufleth · 01-03-2013, 07:01 AM

What was it that actually went in that video? Or did they just lose traction/control because the suspension was so messed up?

#87 · 01-03-2013, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brufleth

What was it that actually went in that video? Or did they just lose traction/control because the suspension was so messed up?

He was driving aggressively/dangerously and because it looked mildly moist and he has about 50mm of contact patch on each tire he lost control on the slightest of bends.

d1ck · 01-03-2013, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #87

He was driving aggressively/dangerously and because it looked mildly moist and he has about 50mm of contact patch on each tire he lost control on the slightest of bends.

Looks to me like he hit an expansion joint in the road as well, which is probably what upset the car.

01-02-2013, 04:24 PM	#1
SubieNate Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Ultramarine Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 959 Thanks: 288 Thanked 560 Times in 269 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hella Fail To those that only care about stance. This is why the rest of the world really, really "hates on" your style preferences. This may be an extreme example, but this car was simply put, a lethal accident waiting to happen. Tire fitment that is unsafe and outside of the manufacturer's intent for the tire. Serious chassis damage due to the amount of lowering. ZERO suspension travel, making it extremely easy for the tires, which are already poorly fitted, to be shocked much harder than they are intended to while driving. This is probably an extreme example, but it's likely not the only one. It's not just about the reduction in performance. It's about the potential danger cars modified like this pose to their occupants and those driving near them in other cars. http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_artic...ella-fail.aspx Flame away. Cheers Nathan

01-03-2013, 04:35 AM	#9
seven Tells it like it is Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: SS1LE \| F150 Diesel \| Civic \| S3 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 823 Thanks: 62 Thanked 279 Times in 122 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	As much as I'm not a fan of Mike Kojima, its a legitimate article. Retarded stuff there. __________________ -Seven \|\| youtube.com/turnsevenvideo 2012 C6 Grand Sport 4LT 2015 Mazda 3i-T/Tech

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robispec Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Black frs project Location: Socal Posts: 960 Thanks: 189 Thanked 886 Times in 381 Posts Mentioned: 190 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	we are LOW but we did it right Lowered the car 3" with a combination of tire size and custom suspension components that yield stock camber gain curves,lowered Center of gravity, corrected roll center, bump steer and stock travel on the suspension (though we do change the compression vs droop limits). I was able to take the car to the local dealer and get side by side shots. We also had it out to the Redline time attack but showed up late and ran in the rain shower session...I did have a member here drive the car and get his impressions He can chime in if he wants to. picts Front view This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized 1024x577 and weights 75KB. yes those are louvers to keep the car cool. the stock hood is lighter than any aftermarket hood sofar. nose to nose This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized 1024x577 and weights 62KB. and This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized 1024x577 and weights 75KB. rear view This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized 1024x577 and weights 70KB.

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chulooz Registered you sir Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: 99 impreza coupe Location: DC / CT Posts: 1,666 Thanks: 259 Thanked 380 Times in 207 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Low is one thing, but slammed in another. 'my cash, personal taste, dont hate' doesnt matter, you are still ruining a well functioning machine.

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brufleth Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2007 WRX Location: Chelsea, MA Posts: 113 Thanks: 14 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What was it that actually went in that video? Or did they just lose traction/control because the suspension was so messed up?

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