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Jaylyons1 · 04-24-2013, 05:46 PM

Kind of an odd comparo since the FT-86 already beat the E46 im similar tests.

DylanFRS · 04-24-2013, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gatorbushmen

That's true. Add a decent forced induction setup and you'll have something faster than the GTI..... for less money.
That's my justification when people brag that they have a faster, yet more expensive car.....

This means nothing. You can take an old Civic, add some suspension and totally smoke a FRS around the track for a fraction the cost...

was385 · 04-24-2013, 06:10 PM

Doesn't the GTI come with P-Zero's?

Lasse · 04-24-2013, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shellslinger

I thought Randy Pobst got a faster time around the track than the GTI. Maybe I heard wrong.

You heard it right. In right hands FRS is faster than gti. And my god how boring car GTI is...

gatorbushmen · 04-24-2013, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DylanFRS

This means nothing. You can take an old Civic, add some suspension and totally smoke a FRS around the track for a fraction the cost...

But an old civic isn't brand new.... haha

Kelbyat07 · 04-24-2013, 06:18 PM

You can really feel the torque in the GTI, but the FRS is more fun to drive everyday.

campy · 04-24-2013, 06:24 PM

So in summary: get whichever you prefer.

gatorbushmen · 04-24-2013, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by campy

So in summary: get whichever you prefer.

That's basically what it always boils down to.

DarkSunrise · 04-24-2013, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by was385

Doesn't the GTI come with P-Zero's?

They generally come with all seasons - Pirelli P Zero Nero AS or Dunlop SP Sport 01 AS.

A few came with max performance summer tires as a factory option, but that was pretty rare -- Bridgestone Potenza RE050A.

Turbowned · 04-24-2013, 06:26 PM

E30 M3 vs FR-S would be a tough decision if I had $25k in cash to spend. Too bad you can't finance an E30 M3, especially considering it's now an appreciating asset.

Zaku · 04-24-2013, 06:27 PM

first time I watched one of these things and felt annoyed, not by the subject but the hosts.

Demandred7 · 04-24-2013, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wootwoot

Price as tested on the GTI was 35K?! Did I read that right? If that's the case, F that thing. FRS all day long.

A little over $7k more (as tested to as tested), but, that is just splitting hairs. I totally agree with your statement nonetheless.

lvillegas102 · 04-24-2013, 06:35 PM

Ehh its preferences , but if you take those 10k and drop in a turbo you can easily rape the GTI in every benchmark, just name it...

4agze · 04-24-2013, 06:39 PM

one thing he didn't say is the GTI is been around for a long time so the development of the GTI is way ahead of the FRS/BRZ, when the GTI came out it was the golf's upscale model for the FRS/BRZ its the only model out in the market in the US. give this chassis few more years and this will surpass the FWD GTI

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