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Old 10-27-2009, 11:44 AM   #1
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Exclamation Subaru 216A confirmed with 2.0L turbo, AWD, bigger and heavier than FT-86

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Just as soon as the Toyota FT-86 was born and came to this world at the Tokyo Motor show, it’s bigger, badder twin brother is about to hit the stage.

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It’s well known that Subaru and Toyota have been in the same bed developing the FT-86 but one question that remains on everyone’s lips is how, if they are developing the same car, can the two be different? Well it’s emerged that Subaru has been busy waving their wand over the 086A/FT-86 and is going to bring some very Subaru style magic to the table.

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The biggest news to come out of all this is that rumors of the car being turbo and all wheel drive are now in fact confirmed. However staff close to the Subaru development side of the project have revealed is that the first thing to differ will be the codes which the cars will be known by. While the version of the FT-86 to go on sale in Japan will be known by the code 086A and in the US and Europe as the 087A and 088A respectively, the Fuji Heavy Industries version will be branded as the 216A. This is to “clearly distinguish between the Toyota and Subaru version of the car”. Things get juicier from there though with the confirmation of what many have been suspecting all along. The car will be driven by a 2.0 liter turbo charged powerplant feeding power to all four wheels. This will either come in the flavor of a revised, lower power but more efficient 250ps and 34.0kg/m EJ20 from the Impreza 2.0 GT or the EJ20 Turbo from the current Impreza WRX STi pumping out 308ps and 43.0kg/m of torque. Our guess is the latter may well be used for an STi version of the car down the track. No pun intended.

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Body wise, the the Subaru version will be bigger and badder but at the same time tipping the scales to the tune of around 100kg more than the 086A. This seems to be a reasonable weight gain seeing that 4WD has been added and the dimensions have been increased in the region of 20mm all around. Total height and width will go from 1260mm to 1280mm and 1760 to 1780mm respectively. Wheelbase and total lengths have also been extended, with overall length reaching 4180mm and the wheelbase gaining 30 to 50mm, up to around 2600~mm from 2570mm. This is almost spot on to the current Impreza’s 2620mm so the possibility of them sharing parts or being very similar is undoubtedly high. The final distinguishing factor between the two? Well that will be the price. The increased performance, all wheel drive and pumped body will be adding around half a million yen to the tag bringing the car to around 3 million yen come 2011. This is not only to cover the extras over the Toyota but also to distinguish itself from the FT-86 version. -- Source: http://www.7tune.com/confirm...r-subaru-216a/
Looks like it's confirmed! Quite a looker of a car IMO.
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:47 AM   #2
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I like the FT better still, but the Subaru is really hot!

tails should be more like this tho.. I hate the sedan WRX tails
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:49 AM   #4
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I like the FT better still, but the Subaru is really hot!
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:55 AM   #5
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http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=2216#post2216
my thoughts on this on another thread...

just to add something else if toyota doesnt offer FI version or not there own version here i would by the subie and rebadge it lol and jus live with the uglier rearend. or get both lol
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Wow...I really like that a lot. I might have to pick up the lighter RWD toyota for my track toy and the Subie as a DD.

Time to start working hella overtime
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So... who was saying that Subie isn't bring their ver? lol
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I like the FT better still, but the Subaru is really hot!

tails should be more like this tho.. I hate the sedan WRX tails
hey can you chop the front bumper of the subie to more of the FT to see what it looks like lol
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They say it's going to weigh 100kg more than the FT-86 but we don't even know how much the Toyota weighs. If the subie comes in at 2800lbs plus 250ps I'd be happy with that for a DD
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Hmm, well I wonder if this means that Toyota won't have their own turbo version. I would much rather have a turbo Toyota version than have to go with the Subie.
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Hmm, well I wonder if this means that Toyota won't have their own turbo version. I would much rather have a turbo Toyota version than have to go with the Subie.
agreed thats my concern too
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agreed thats my concern too
I guess I would still turbo it if it wasn't but it'd be so awesome to have it boosted from day one. Besides that, I really don't want AWD.
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hey can you chop the front bumper of the subie to more of the FT to see what it looks like lol
i can get to it, prob tonight
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i can get to it, prob tonight
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