Why would more power ruin the car?? - Page 30 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

sly · 01-21-2020, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Th3rdSun

Thanks for your feedback. I feel like everyone that's against more power for this car should read this. Sounds like you went from a b-cup to a solid c-cup,instead of just going double d's,so to speak.

Driving around,I feel like this car is working harder than it probably needs to and going FI with not too crazy amount of boost just makes the car better than what it is. And you did exactly what I figured what needs to be done. Wider tires are an absolute must,and I didn't even think about the clutch.Do you think a short shifter would improve driving even more?

Anyway,I'll never understand why people are against more power,especially considering that even though the car is 200 hp,it's not putting that to the wheels. 186~ish to the wheels isn't very awe inspiring for this car,imo,but what the hell do I know? I just daily it every single day,for the past 4 1/2 years.

Thank you. I feel that at 300hp, the car can handle it to it's full potential. I didn't want to go overboard with power which is why I went with the Cosworth. It comes with a custom intake manifold and really looks OEM. Completely eliminates the torque dip.

But if you were to go much more over this, you will have to do some suspension upgrades. It's a light car and if you give it too much power, you aren't going to be able to put that power down and it will just spin the tires. I haven't changed anything suspension-wise on the car. Same shocks, sway bars, everything...

I had considered a short shifter but I don't feel it really needs it unless you go with a lighter flywheel. I added a Fidanza aluminum flywheel a few weeks ago and it really brings out the character of this engine. It revs quickly and likes faster shifting now. But for me, I think the stock shifter works just fine. Even though I've changed a lot on this car, I also want it to look like it came from the factory the way I have it. I wanted it to look more like a true STI version should have looked and performed.

The car needs a little boost. I like the positive displacement supercharger of the Cosworth. It's completely predictable and linear in power delivery. I have never driven a turbo BRZ, but I suspect it wouldn't be quite as fun.

Sapphireho · 01-21-2020, 12:18 PM

A stock twin on the dyno my car was tuned on puts out about 160-165hp.

My car is 240 on gas and 310 on e85.

The car is completely ruined.

Tcoat · 01-21-2020, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sapphireho

A stock twin on the dyno my car was tuned on puts out about 160-165hp.

My car is 240 on gas and 310 on e85.

The car is completely ruined.

Well you only have bolt on parts after all.

Dave-ROR · 01-21-2020, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

That is always my point in these silly debates.
Not sure where people get to daily drive where they can use 350hp to it's best advantage though so that "fun" can be limited.

350hp? That make cars with such low HP numbers these days?

Tcoat · 01-21-2020, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

350hp? That make cars with such low HP numbers these days?

That is just the power of the starter motor!

fang_gt86 · 01-21-2020, 01:57 PM

Because more power ruins my stop-and-go traffic.

86MLR · 01-21-2020, 05:30 PM

Ruining the purity of a Yaris

Sapphireho · 01-21-2020, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Well you only have bolt on parts after all.

I welded everything.

Tcoat · 01-21-2020, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sapphireho

I welded everything.

Oh much better then!

Sapphireho · 01-21-2020, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Oh much better then!

Oil changes are a bitch!

humfrz · 01-21-2020, 11:49 PM

I don't know if more power would ruin my car, but, it may ruin me.

Every time I think I need more power, I'm thinking about doing something dangerous or illegal.

humfrz

Broseph · 01-22-2020, 06:10 AM

More power is absolutely what this car needs. Looking forward to Gen 2!

alan.chalkley · 01-22-2020, 06:30 AM

More power = more fuel consumption = more trips to the fuel station or a much larger fuel tank.
With a larger engine + turbo + more fuel weight , what happens with balance and brakes?

Boomerang · 01-22-2020, 06:33 AM

totally subjective statement

01-21-2020, 01:57 PM	#412
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