Toyota 86 TRD to Officially Debut @ TAS 2012

[Ryuu0u]

Originally Posted by syldrin

so i'm not the only one that noticed this bit of sage-like advice.

Originally Posted by JDLM

just cause Mitsu had to have an engine and took one from the GEMA

I've seen it so many times on the GC forums along with "350+ hp is no problem for the 2.0T" then there are threads of people blowing their engines.

[JDLM]

Originally Posted by Ryuu0u

I've seen it so many times on the GC forums along with "350+ hp is no problem for the 2.0T" then there are threads of people blowing their engines.

It is because of the deck design of the block (Mitsu wanted to do enough of their own "design" work to change it from the basic engine) now the Turbo Engine is different in the GC from the Sonata

[Syldrin]

Originally Posted by Ryuu0u

I've seen it so many times on the GC forums along with "350+ hp is no problem for the 2.0T" then there are threads of people blowing their engines.

the gen uses the 4B11?

[JDLM]

Originally Posted by syldrin

the gen uses the 4B11?

It doesn't have the same model as the EVO (it was made under GEMA ) Hyundai headed up a lot of the R&D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_...uring_Alliance

The Theta engine is turbocharged for use in the Genesis Coupe. In this form it produces 210 hp (213 PS) @ 6,000rpm on 87 octane (AKI) gasoline, and 223 hp (226 PS) on 93 AKI. Torque remains the same at 223 lb·ft (302 N·m) @ 2000rpm. The Theta block used is very similar to the Mitsubishi Evolution X 4B11T, but the two engines are not identical. [1]

The 2.0L GDI turbo in 2011 Sonata develops 274 hp (278 PS) and 269 lb·ft (365 N·m) of torque. The fuel economy is rated at 22mpg(10.7L / 100KM) in the city and 34mpg(6.92L / 100KM) on the highway. It comes exclusively with a 6-speed AT. The engine has a maximum boost of 17psi and features twin-scroll turbocharger. [2]

[Syldrin]

good info thanks man. i didnt even know about that. makes sense why the motor is so drastically different in the EVO X than the earlier models.

[JDLM]

Originally Posted by syldrin

good info thanks man. i didnt even know about that. makes sense why the motor is so drastically different in the EVO X than the earlier models.

It's a little bitter sweet if you know car's history : Hyundai started years ago and had to have engines so they bought from Mitsu and now Mitsu is getting them from Hyundai. I am all for the "little guy" but the GC is "good" and could be better. They did benchmark the E46M should mean something.

[Syldrin]

this is sad i can't find a gen with and substantial hp or doing anything crazy fantastic. pretty boring car on the interwebz.

[JDLM]

Originally Posted by syldrin

this is sad i can't find a gen with and substantial hp or doing anything crazy fantastic. pretty boring car on the interwebz.

Yeah there is lots of stuff coming out of Korea (I was there for 14 months) and have a lot of connections still

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by JDLM

They did benchmark the E46M should mean something.

Well that explains how it become a bloated pig.

[Syldrin]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Well that explains how it become a bloated pig.

lulz

[JDLM]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Well that explains how it become a bloated pig.

Originally Posted by syldrin

lulz

I think it was a structure integrity issue/test/comparison

Also, should be interesting as a "next gen" goal for the car to get a better design now that they took a BMW designer

the Genesis Coupe has a 24% stiffer bending rigidity than the BMW E46 M3

[Ryuu0u]

Originally Posted by JDLM

It is because of the deck design of the block (Mitsu wanted to do enough of their own "design" work to change it from the basic engine) now the Turbo Engine is different in the GC from the Sonata

Thank you!

Originally Posted by syldrin

this is sad i can't find a gen with and substantial hp or doing anything crazy fantastic. pretty boring car on the interwebz.

Originally Posted by JDLM

Yeah there is lots of stuff coming out of Korea (I was there for 14 months) and have a lot of connections still

There is a lot of crazy builds coming from Korea you just have to dig. There are GC 2.0T making 400hp+ but they do have to do a bit of work to get them there along with some of the 3.8 v6 getting a popular TT upgrade.

Anyways yeah lets wait and not bash on TRD till they actually say/reveal something. Toyota has not let us down yet so show some confidence in them.

[NorCalRider]

Originally Posted by FT-86GOD

Lol...... No matter what TRD ends up bringing out we get an opportunity to see what the likes of HKS, VERTEX, CUSCO, TOMEI, BLITZ, APEXI and all the rest who will be showing there expression of the 86/BRZ.....

It will be epic and we r all bitching about what TRD will or wont do....

We get to see all these aftermarket handling, power options and pick and choose before the Toyota/BRZ even hits the showroom floor......
EPIC...................

I hope to go down the TRD road for the most part if they meet the standards with coilovers, brakes and a bodykit but id be kidding myself to think my 86 wont get a strong lick from HKS, DEFI, CUSCO, VERTEX and BRIDE.....

This is what I am looking forward to seeing from this show. One has to believe that Toyota has given a few of these cars out to be tuned for this show like they did with Greedy and the FRS.

[Syldrin]

Originally Posted by Ryuu0u

There is a lot of crazy builds coming from Korea you just have to dig. There are GC 2.0T making 400hp+ but they do have to do a bit of work to get them there along with some of the 3.8 v6 getting a popular TT upgrade.

see thats sad. if the heavy hitters are hitting around 400 on a RWD that is bleh to me. maybe i am being a bit rough on the car. i like the car i guess i just expected more. my tc was 350 at one point and i am pretty sure 400 is easily attainable. when i think RWD i think huge hp for some reason. maybe it's because i am such a supra fan boy. i just think 400 isnt that impressive for some reason. maybe because i was so close to that.