Who wants to see Wilwood Brakes vs. AP Racing Brakes ( Sprint Kit ) - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

hamlet · 01-31-2013, 02:01 PM

I ran a set of wilwood's on my s2000 and my old civic Si and was EXTREMELY happy with both sets. In both cases, the improvement over stock was dramatic, both in sudden stops and also with track use.

D1cker · 02-02-2013, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory

We're going to be VERY close then, but I think still fine. I'll round up a calliper tomorrow to be sure.

-Jeremy

PICTURES???!?!?!?!?! Sorry this just has me very excited.

FT-86 SpeedFactory · 02-02-2013, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by D1cker

PICTURES???!?!?!?!?! Sorry this just has me very excited.

I am grabbing them off our camera as I type this. Will have them edited and posted this evening.

Cheers!
-Yo

FT-86 SpeedFactory · 02-02-2013, 07:51 PM

More coming, we got measurements and more. Off to dinner for now.

FT-86 SpeedFactory · 02-03-2013, 12:49 AM

Well, back from dinner a bit late. Had a few cocktails downtown tonight :happy0180:

Nonetheless, here are the clearance and measurement shots of the AP Sprint kit and Enkei 17x9 +35 RPF1.

Using a spark plug gap and feeler tool to measure clearance. This was measured at the point where the spoke of the wheel had the least clearance.

Clearance for the AP Sprint kit with this particular wheel was measured at 2.45mm

Surok · 02-03-2013, 01:36 AM

does this mean it works? i doubt it! spokes will bend wont they?
a bit of flex

OrbitalEllipses · 02-03-2013, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Surok

does this mean it works? i doubt it! spokes will bend wont they?
a bit of flex

2mm recommended minimum clearance.

B L U E S L A T E · 02-03-2013, 02:03 AM

Bravo.

benster · 02-04-2013, 03:12 PM

it's on the inside of the spokes. if it flexes over 2.45mm there you're not just running race slicks on a road course, you're crashing the vehicle. if that clearance was on the outside edge of the spokes, maybe your flex theory would work, just not in the area the brakes are.

02-05-2013, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by benster

it's on the inside of the spokes. if it flexes over 2.45mm there you're not just running race slicks on a road course, you're crashing the vehicle. if that clearance was on the outside edge of the spokes, maybe your flex theory would work, just not in the area the brakes are.

Not sure what ur trying to say here, are you for or against?

benster · 02-05-2013, 06:09 AM

i don't think we can account flex at that part of the wheel, hence I'm pretty sure it won't contact, sorry if I didn't make it clear.

mad_sb · 02-05-2013, 07:11 AM

In Summary:
willwood kit for the showwhores
AP kit for the trackwhores

I drool a little bit every time i see the AP kit.

FT-86 SpeedFactory · 02-05-2013, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by benster

i don't think we can account flex at that part of the wheel, hence I'm pretty sure it won't contact, sorry if I didn't make it clear.

Correct, since it is at one of the stronger points of the wheel where the clearance is the closest.

We're excited to get this thing out of the shop once it warms up. Might be tomorrow. We shall see, roads are pretty salty yet.

Dave-ROR · 02-05-2013, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by benster

i don't think we can account flex at that part of the wheel, hence I'm pretty sure it won't contact, sorry if I didn't make it clear.

I'd have to find the article I read, but it was GRM talking about their results where some heavier versions of the same wheel was faster in autox/track use than lighter versions because the wheel didn't have as much flex between the hub and the rim, in other words, across the spokes.

I would say that the farther in the less flex will be an issue. There's also heat related expansion to consider though. I've seen an EVO at the track have wheel to caliper contact when it never did on the street, no real damage but the owner was confused by it, whether he did something wrong (side loading impact for example) or it was just heat/flex I'm not sure.

Either way, 2mm is enough and there looks to be even more than the 2mm available here so it should be fine anyways. I think Brembo says 3mm though. Either way, with that measurement from Jeremy I'd rock it until they hit

02-05-2013, 07:11 AM	#40
mad_sb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2013 Asphalt FR-S Location: Orange County Posts: 1,639 Thanks: 632 Thanked 981 Times in 537 Posts Mentioned: 100 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	In Summary: willwood kit for the showwhores AP kit for the trackwhores I drool a little bit every time i see the AP kit. __________________ ~Namaste~ 2013 Asphalt FRS

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hamlet Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: blue brz, silver R8 5.2, orange s2K Location: So Cal Posts: 96 Thanks: 2 Thanked 79 Times in 26 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I ran a set of wilwood's on my s2000 and my old civic Si and was EXTREMELY happy with both sets. In both cases, the improvement over stock was dramatic, both in sudden stops and also with track use.

02-02-2013, 07:51 PM	#32
FT-86 SpeedFactory Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 7,694 Thanks: 1,298 Thanked 3,578 Times in 1,253 Posts Mentioned: 341 Post(s) Tagged: 5 Thread(s)	More coming, we got measurements and more. Off to dinner for now.

02-03-2013, 12:49 AM	#33
FT-86 SpeedFactory Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 7,694 Thanks: 1,298 Thanked 3,578 Times in 1,253 Posts Mentioned: 341 Post(s) Tagged: 5 Thread(s)	Well, back from dinner a bit late. Had a few cocktails downtown tonight :happy0180: Nonetheless, here are the clearance and measurement shots of the AP Sprint kit and Enkei 17x9 +35 RPF1. Using a spark plug gap and feeler tool to measure clearance. This was measured at the point where the spoke of the wheel had the least clearance. Clearance for the AP Sprint kit with this particular wheel was measured at 2.45mm

02-03-2013, 01:36 AM	#34
Surok Wise old man Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 86 GTS Location: Sydney Posts: 1,003 Thanks: 999 Thanked 240 Times in 161 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	does this mean it works? i doubt it! spokes will bend wont they? a bit of flex

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02-04-2013, 03:12 PM	#37
benster Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: none yet Location: Belleville, ON Canada Posts: 52 Thanks: 3 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	it's on the inside of the spokes. if it flexes over 2.45mm there you're not just running race slicks on a road course, you're crashing the vehicle. if that clearance was on the outside edge of the spokes, maybe your flex theory would work, just not in the area the brakes are.

02-05-2013, 06:09 AM	#39
benster Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: none yet Location: Belleville, ON Canada Posts: 52 Thanks: 3 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i don't think we can account flex at that part of the wheel, hence I'm pretty sure it won't contact, sorry if I didn't make it clear.

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