Official: Toyota FT-1 Concept / First New Supra Prototype Spotted!

[bkharmony]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

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Someday I shall post 34 times a day.... and ye shall bow TO ME!

[TorontoNat]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Alpha Camaro is probably the best handling car for under 50k to be honest.

lol no. Never driven a camaro but seen some AutoX and I refuse to believe that.

Amazing cars... Even Chris Harris said so but that is a bold statement.

[TorontoNat]

Originally Posted by Overdrive

Yes, that is indeed unlikely out of the box for the 4-cylinder...I don't think anyone is expecting that power or weight for that version. I'd expect that out of the 6. And while these days making 350hp is almost easy, once upon a time 20 years ago that power moving a few hundred pounds shy of 3500 lbs were the kind of numbers you got from a C5 Corvette. That's probably a much fairer vehicle to compare to. While we of course also don't have legit info on Supra dimensions (yet), I wouldn't be surprised to find it to be similar to a C5 in most every dimension, except probably a bit shorter. Of course when it comes to handling, totally different story.

And all speculation, of course, but I don't think it's not sound. At least until Motor Trend leaks an internal Toyota memo of the car dimensions that they got while having a meeting at Los Pollos Hermanos with an engineer who agreed to meet as long as they could stay anonymous.

Agreed, C5 much closer and better comparison (most likely). Very exited about this car regardless and the whole direction Toyota is going in. Tada FTW as always... Let's hope that secret fried-chicken interview happens soon so we can come back and discuss!

[FR-Sky]

If there is no manual...I guess I ll stick with my poor FRS >.<

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait88

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by rvoll

The Z4 was a convertible which means 200-400 added pounds for frame rigidity and the top mechanism. Add another 150 lbs for the 6 cylinder, and that brings you down 450 lbs for a 4 cyl comparison. That makes sense given that the wheelbase of the Z4 was 98. So, somewhere between 2800 and 3000 is not out of the realm of disbelief.

The Z4 coupe wasn't any lighter.

[Shark_Bait88]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

[Tcoat]

[qcbaker]

Originally Posted by TorontoNat

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Never driven a camaro
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If you've never driven a camaro for yourself, how do you know how it feels to drive? I guess you can look at the specs and say "its heavier, therefore it must not handle as well as a lighter car" but unless you've driven a car yourself, you can't really say with any credibility that you know it doesn't handle as well as another car...

[Shark_Bait88]

[TorontoNat]

Originally Posted by qcbaker

If you've never driven a camaro for yourself, how do you know how it feels to drive? I guess you can look at the specs and say "its heavier, therefore it must not handle as well as a lighter car" but unless you've driven a car yourself, you can't really say with any credibility that you know it doesn't handle as well as another car...

Meh. "Physics" is a real thing that tends to stay consistent.

[dtbdan]

Originally Posted by rvoll

You still need reasonable volumes to keep a production line going. Developing markets typically don't sell large volumes. It is not what is "needed", it is how many units can they sell.... They are in the business of making money and there is always a cost of goods....

Go back and read what I wrote, cause now you're just pushing your opinion without caring about what anyone else says, so why should anyone care what you say? If you actually want to be taken seriously be open to new information, it just might make you understand things better. Who would've thought of that?

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by TorontoNat

lol no. Never driven a camaro but seen some AutoX and I refuse to believe that.

Amazing cars... Even Chris Harris said so but that is a bold statement.

Originally Posted by TorontoNat

Meh. "Physics" is a real thing that tends to stay consistent.

You refute the claim, but you didn't list any cars that you thought deserve the title more. The car is big, but the magnetic suspension is no gimmick. The Camaro outperforms cars on the track that cost three times as much. It's no slouch, that's for sure.

[DandoX]

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