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11-10-2019, 01:02 AM | #113 |
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I stick with 5w-30 as I am boosted. Sent my first sample to Blackstone. Also run JC racing dual radiator cooler.
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So, what is so bad about high oil temperatures? Did anyone actually blew their engine tracking on 0w20 without an oil cooler?
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At higher temperatures, oil becomes less viscous and it is unable to lubricant the rotating assembling sufficiently. While this might not lead to "blowing an engine", the more worrying fear it that it will lead to long-term issues down the road.
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2. Yes, many examples exist of people learning about very bad things (TM) the hard way. At this point it’s just stupid to track this car without an engine oil cooler. |
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Its pretty well widely understood that 0w20 oils, and now even 0w16!!, are solely for fuel economy. If emissions/fuel economy was not on the table, we would still be putting 5w30, 10w40 in all our cars. The only real advantage to 0w20 is you could say it better protects the engine during cold starts as opposed to 5w30, etc.
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As for oil pressure, just look at the plots on the first post in this thread. The oil pressure for 5w30 oil is the same with or without an oil cooler. So, viscosity isn't an issue if you use thicker oil, and pressure isn't an issue either as the pressure drop due to the oil cooler is equal to the pressure that would have been gained due to cooler oil. Quote:
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134863 I'm pretty satisfied that I'm OK tracking without a cooler for my car and my usage. It should be noted that adding an oil cooler is not a risk-free proposition. Leaks are not uncommon... As in other threads, for those considering getting one I'd suggest first having oil analysis done before and after tracking, and see if oil degradation and particulates indicate any problems before investing in an oil cooler. Last edited by ZDan; 11-21-2019 at 04:54 PM. |
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I go one better and run synthetic 0W-40 along with the FXT cooler.
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Is that the one where OP went with the Killer B pickup tube...?
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How do you measure oil temperatures? Is there an app/obd2 scanner combination that can do it? Mine can't
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