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Old 08-23-2019, 12:34 PM   #393
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Any feedback on the Project Mu Club Racer advance vs the standard(old?) Club Racer pads?
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Old 08-26-2019, 08:14 PM   #394
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Have anyone tried the DBA xp 735?
I am on my 2nd set on OEM rotors with Falken 615 tires (225)
No fading. Doing HDPE.
Price 135 front.


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Old 08-26-2019, 10:19 PM   #395
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Have anyone tried the DBA xp 735?
I am on my 2nd set on OEM rotors with Falken 615 tires (225)
No fading. Doing HDPE.
Price 135 front.
Where did you find buy yours? I was told they were discontinued when I tried to order some for the pp Brembos. (I ended up buying the XP650 instead but have not used them yet)



There are a couple reviews floating around that compared them favorably to a Carbotech XP10. Seems like a great deal if you can find them.
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Old 08-26-2019, 10:41 PM   #396
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do not buy from ebay, they have the incorrect picture, shows xp735 but they deliver xp650
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Track Brake Pad Discussion Thread

Brake Pad Manufacturer (F/R): Carbotech XP10

Caliper (F/R):Stoptech ST-40/OEM

Rotor Size (F/R - IE OEM or specify):328MM/OEM

Compound (F/R):XP10/XP10

Tires: Hankook RS3 and Dunlop ZIII



Feedback: Couldn't keep these bedded on the street and they were very loud. Not loud when bedded. The pedal feel is vague under hard braking even though they do not feel like the performance has begun to fade. It makes it hard to modulate the brakes when the tires are hot and starting to get greasy making them feel inconsistent. Seemed to transfer a lot of heat to the caliper.



Scores:

Dusting (1=high-10=low):3

Cold bite (1=low-10=high):7

Hot bite (1=low-10=high):6

Modulation (1=low-10=high):3

Noise (1=extremely loud-10=quiet):2

Pad Lifespan (1=short-10=long): 5 About 12 track days plus DD'ing

Does the brake dust with this combination damage the wheels/paint if not cleaned immediately? (Y/N) No, but left them for a long time on my OEM wheels and they were extremely difficult to clean off.

Brake ducts: (Y/N) No




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Old 11-20-2019, 07:01 PM   #398
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hi guys, I'm new here. I currently have the OEM Brembos Calipers and on Bridgestone RE-71R 235/40-17. What's a good pad to suggest for track? Do you guys suggest I continue to run the stock ones, which I think are TRD pads.

They're good for street and relatively clean of dust and sound, just not sure how they would hold up for track. I plan to run multiple groups back to back with different drivers.

I'm familiar with Carbotech XP10/XP8 and Winmax W6/W4 on Hankook RS3/RS4. Something similar would be good.

Any advice would be great, thank you!
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Old 12-08-2019, 10:44 PM   #399
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Brake Pad Manufacturer (F/R): G-Loc
Caliper (F/R): OEM
Rotor Size (F/R - IE OEM or specify): Stoptech slotted, OEM spec
Compound (F/R): R10 front/R10 rear
Tires: Hankook Ventus RS4 255/40/17

Feedback: screeches from the front rotors, squeal at low speed. Other than that, they have strong initial bite, could be better thought.

Scores:
Dusting (1=high-10=low): 1
Cold bite (1=low-10=high): 7
Hot bite (1=low-10=high): 9
Modulation (1=low-10=high): 9
Noise (1=extremely loud-10=quiet): 2
Pad Lifespan (1=short-10=long): 4 HPDE, 1 AutoX, 2 High speed AutoX (standing start, no slaloms/no cones)
Does the brake dust with this combination damage the wheels/paint if not cleaned immediately? Maybe
Brake ducts: In the future
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Anyone have any information on the new CSG C1/C2 brakes? Coming from Winmax W6s or Project Mu 999s was wondering how people felt about them? The longevity is really appealing!
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Anyone have any information on the new CSG C1/C2 brakes? Coming from Winmax W6s or Project Mu 999s was wondering how people felt about them? The longevity is really appealing!


There is an entire thread feedback thread on them.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131978
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Old 08-06-2020, 01:05 PM   #402
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Car: BRZ w/ Perf Package (Brembos) - completely stock
Tracks: Laguna Seca, Thunderhill East/West, Buttonwillow
Tires: I'll be on the stock Primacies for the first event or so, but will swap in some 200tw tires (RS4 most likely) afterwards.
Experience: I've driven in about 10 track events with my previous car and was running Carbotech XP10 and XP8s.

Looking to attend some track events in the near future for the first time with the BRZ. I've narrowed down my pad choices to Winmax W5 or PMU Club Racer.

Does anyone have a recommendation to go with one over the other? Do they leave any sort of transfer layer that would prevent me from swapping in the stock pads for street use?
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Old 08-12-2020, 09:35 AM   #403
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I've driven in about 10 track events with my previous car and was running Carbotech XP10 and XP8s.

Looking to attend some track events in the near future for the first time with the BRZ. I've narrowed down my pad choices to Winmax W5 or PMU Club Racer.
For me W5 > XP10 > Pmu CR. I tried both CR and W5 on the BRZ, W5 has a lot better initial bite when hot and much much better responsiveness when stone cold. Can be noisy af tho! Enough to raise eyebrows in a paddock full of track cars...

Another option is CSG Spec C2, I just ran these at the front at Palmer this past Sunday. Great bite even cold, I ran them with Conti ECS street tires and with Hoosier A7s and honestly they were great at the track with either. Won my time trial class, COMSCC T60 (9 competitors including a 981 Cayman S) with a 1:48.16

They're also fine on the street, they work when cold, not too noisy and not too dusty either. Pretty remarkable!
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Car: BRZ w/ Perf Package (Brembos) - completely stock
Tracks: Laguna Seca, Thunderhill East/West, Buttonwillow
Tires: I'll be on the stock Primacies for the first event or so, but will swap in some 200tw tires (RS4 most likely) afterwards.
Experience: I've driven in about 10 track events with my previous car and was running Carbotech XP10 and XP8s.

Looking to attend some track events in the near future for the first time with the BRZ. I've narrowed down my pad choices to Winmax W5 or PMU Club Racer.

Does anyone have a recommendation to go with one over the other? Do they leave any sort of transfer layer that would prevent me from swapping in the stock pads for street use?
On my Spec Miata, I recently switched from GLoc 12/8 to 12/10 and then 16/12. Holy crap, never going back to the softer pads - much more confident braking. For a mixed-duty pads, maybe the 10/8 combo is good. But for track duty, I like a pad that stops right NOW.
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Car: BRZ w/ Perf Package (Brembos) - completely stock

Tracks: Laguna Seca, Thunderhill East/West, Buttonwillow

Tires: I'll be on the stock Primacies for the first event or so, but will swap in some 200tw tires (RS4 most likely) afterwards.

Experience: I've driven in about 10 track events with my previous car and was running Carbotech XP10 and XP8s.



Looking to attend some track events in the near future for the first time with the BRZ. I've narrowed down my pad choices to Winmax W5 or PMU Club Racer.



Does anyone have a recommendation to go with one over the other? Do they leave any sort of transfer layer that would prevent me from swapping in the stock pads for street use?
What about 1521s for the street. I run 10/8s on my NA frs. They do leave a transfer layer but with the xp10/8 and 1521s you can use the same rotors.

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Prior Setup:
Brake Pad Manufacturer (F/R): Performance Friction
Caliper (F/R): Ap Sprint by Essex (F), OEM (R)
Rotor Size (F/R - IE OEM or specify): 299mm (F), OEM (R)
Compound (F/R): 01 (F), 13 (R)
Tires: Bridgestone RE-71R

Feedback: Great bite, modulation and feel, this combo was the best feeling performing I have used on the car with 200 treadwear tires. When I switched to R-comp tires, the balance and modulation were thrown out of whack and pad wear increased greatly. Probably need to adjust the compounds to improve the balance with r-comps.

Scores:
Dusting (1=high-10=low): 7
Cold bite (1=low-10=high): 6
Hot bite (1=low-10=high): 8
Modulation (1=low-10=high): 9
Noise (1=extremely loud-10=quiet): 5
Pad Lifespan (1=short-10=long): 7 (3-4 events, 3 hours per event)
Does the brake dust with this combination damage the wheels/paint if not cleaned immediately? (Y/N) No
Brake ducts: (Y/N) No


Current Setup:
Brake Pad Manufacturer (F/R): G-Loc
Caliper (F/R): Ap Sprint by Essex (F), OEM (R)
Rotor Size (F/R - IE OEM or specify): 299mm (F), OEM (R)
Compound (F/R): 16 (F), 8 (R)
Tires: Nankang AR-1, Hoosier R7

Feedback: Great bite, pedal feel and overall stopping power. Seem to be wearing the front pads at a much higher rate and the front-end dips more under braking with the increased grip (pads & tires). Working with G-Loc and will be trying an R12 rear soon to adjust the braking balance.

Scores:
Dusting (1=high-10=low): 6
Cold bite (1=low-10=high): 8
Hot bite (1=low-10=high): 9
Modulation (1=low-10=high): 7
Noise (1=extremely loud-10=quiet): 3
Pad Lifespan (1=short-10=long): 4 (1-2 events, 3 hours per event)
Does the brake dust with this combination damage the wheels/paint if not cleaned immediately? (Y/N) No
Brake ducts: (Y/N) No
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