follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Cosmetic Modification (Interior/Exterior/Lighting)

Cosmetic Modification (Interior/Exterior/Lighting) Discussions about cosmetic mods.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-17-2015, 12:38 AM   #1
protpibe
Senior Member
 
protpibe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Drives: 4-Runner Sport - 13' BRZ SportTech
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 1,395
Thanks: 253
Thanked 839 Times in 459 Posts
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Occupant sensor

I've done some searching about this but haven't found a definitive answer.

I'm installing a pair of seats in my BRZ and want to retain the stock passenger occupancy sensor. I've disassembled the stock seat and removed the pad but I can't get it to trigger the airbag on in the new seat.

Has anyone done this successfully?

Or is there some kind of bypass type of switch that allows me to manually select on or off?

Help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
__________________
Top Tier Imports - Check out my build journal HERE
protpibe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2015, 01:56 AM   #2
8R6
Senior Member
 
8R6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Drives: FRS
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,086
Thanks: 2,738
Thanked 1,338 Times in 746 Posts
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
my iphone seems to have magical powers to trigger the airbag sensor when i place it on the passenger seat. so annoying.
__________________
8R6 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to 8R6 For This Useful Post:
0351USMC (03-24-2015), Josue Cafe FR-S (06-24-2016), Jrryjms07 (03-17-2015)
Old 03-17-2015, 06:37 AM   #3
Jrryjms07
Senior Member
 
Jrryjms07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Drives: 2013 Firestorm
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 279
Thanks: 1,378
Thanked 125 Times in 67 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRGT86 View Post
my iphone seems to have magical powers to trigger the airbag sensor when i place it on the passenger seat. so annoying.
Same here. Lol
Jrryjms07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2015, 09:51 AM   #4
protpibe
Senior Member
 
protpibe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Drives: 4-Runner Sport - 13' BRZ SportTech
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 1,395
Thanks: 253
Thanked 839 Times in 459 Posts
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I'm starting to think that no one running aftermarket seats has a working passenger side airbag lol.

I read one guys writeup about folding it up and stuffing it under the seat, but that's not how these sensors work. If you fold it in on itself, it throws an airbag light.

Does ANYONE have a working passenger side airbag with aftermarket seats?
__________________
Top Tier Imports - Check out my build journal HERE
protpibe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2015, 01:22 PM   #5
jadewbj
Senior Member
 
jadewbj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 2013 Whiteout Scion FRS
Location: Orlando FL
Posts: 1,275
Thanks: 101
Thanked 524 Times in 307 Posts
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by protpibe View Post
I'm starting to think that no one running aftermarket seats has a working passenger side airbag lol.

I read one guys writeup about folding it up and stuffing it under the seat, but that's not how these sensors work. If you fold it in on itself, it throws an airbag light.

Does ANYONE have a working passenger side airbag with aftermarket seats?
Mine would work but I ended up throwing it under the carpet. We did not have the time to take apart my new EVO seat to stick the new sensor in. Basically you just need to take the seat cover off the stock seat, pull the sensor pad and then put it in the new seat and plug it in to the harness. I will eventually have it moved into the new seat.

This is what you are looking for.
jadewbj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2015, 01:41 PM   #6
protpibe
Senior Member
 
protpibe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Drives: 4-Runner Sport - 13' BRZ SportTech
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 1,395
Thanks: 253
Thanked 839 Times in 459 Posts
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jadewbj View Post
Mine would work but I ended up throwing it under the carpet. We did not have the time to take apart my new EVO seat to stick the new sensor in. Basically you just need to take the seat cover off the stock seat, pull the sensor pad and then put it in the new seat and plug it in to the harness. I will eventually have it moved into the new seat.

This is what you are looking for.
I removed that pad along with the module and have it installed in the seat. It does not switch to AIRBAG ON when someone sits in the seat. I tried putting the pad under the seat, which obviously doesn't work either, and rolling it up onto itself causes the airbag warning light to trigger.

Does your passenger airbag go to ON status?
__________________
Top Tier Imports - Check out my build journal HERE
protpibe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2015, 01:55 PM   #7
Koa
Sweeper
 
Koa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Drives: '02 RA Bugeye | '15 FRS
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 1,876
Thanks: 2,291
Thanked 1,488 Times in 788 Posts
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRGT86 View Post
my iphone seems to have magical powers to trigger the airbag sensor when i place it on the passenger seat. so annoying.
all phones that emit an electrostatic aura do this..
Koa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2015, 05:30 PM   #8
spitfire481
Senior Member
 
spitfire481's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Drives: 2JZ FRS
Location: Pure Automotive Performance
Posts: 1,378
Thanks: 97
Thanked 1,354 Times in 621 Posts
Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
I put it under the seat bottom foam in my recaro pole positions. Worked just fine.
__________________
Pure Automotive Performance
MoTeC
Build Thread
@spitfire481
spitfire481 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2015, 04:37 PM   #9
protpibe
Senior Member
 
protpibe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Drives: 4-Runner Sport - 13' BRZ SportTech
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 1,395
Thanks: 253
Thanked 839 Times in 459 Posts
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by spitfire481 View Post
I put it under the seat bottom foam in my recaro pole positions. Worked just fine.
Nice!

How did you remove it from the factory seat? Just pulled that grey foamy stuff off of the cushion?
__________________
Top Tier Imports - Check out my build journal HERE
protpibe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2015, 11:05 AM   #10
spitfire481
Senior Member
 
spitfire481's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Drives: 2JZ FRS
Location: Pure Automotive Performance
Posts: 1,378
Thanks: 97
Thanked 1,354 Times in 621 Posts
Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by protpibe View Post
Nice!

How did you remove it from the factory seat? Just pulled that grey foamy stuff off of the cushion?
Lifted the fabric and worked it out from under there. Some of that thin grey foam came with it so I guess that's what it's glued to
__________________
Pure Automotive Performance
MoTeC
Build Thread
@spitfire481
spitfire481 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2015, 10:03 AM   #11
jadewbj
Senior Member
 
jadewbj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Drives: 2013 Whiteout Scion FRS
Location: Orlando FL
Posts: 1,275
Thanks: 101
Thanked 524 Times in 307 Posts
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by protpibe View Post
I removed that pad along with the module and have it installed in the seat. It does not switch to AIRBAG ON when someone sits in the seat. I tried putting the pad under the seat, which obviously doesn't work either, and rolling it up onto itself causes the airbag warning light to trigger.

Does your passenger airbag go to ON status?
Mine constantly thinks someone is in the seat. So I had to have the seatbelt chime turned off via techstream.
jadewbj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2015, 10:19 AM   #12
Dadhawk
1st86 Driver!
 
Dadhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Drives: '13 FR-S (#3 of 1st 86)
Location: Powder Springs, GA
Posts: 19,811
Thanks: 38,817
Thanked 24,936 Times in 11,375 Posts
Mentioned: 182 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BRGT86 View Post
my iphone seems to have magical powers to trigger the airbag sensor when i place it on the passenger seat. so annoying.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jrryjms07 View Post
Same here. Lol
Known issue. It's because it is NOT weight sensitive but uses a current flow to detect. Most likely it is not your iPhone but you are charging your iPhone and the connector is in the seat. Several threads on this on here.

I can make my Droid Maxx do it at will. Insert the charging plug, lay on seat, I have a phantom passenger. Unplug, no passenger. Plug back in, lay the phone so that the charging plug is lifted off the seat and on the bolster, no passenger.

Things that are wet, or liquid can also set it off. Its similar to a touchscreen or biometric reader that uses a very low current charge to make a connection.
__________________

Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S
Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark.
What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk".
Dadhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Dadhawk For This Useful Post:
8R6 (03-23-2015), Jrryjms07 (03-23-2015)
Old 03-23-2015, 10:52 AM   #13
Jrryjms07
Senior Member
 
Jrryjms07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Drives: 2013 Firestorm
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 279
Thanks: 1,378
Thanked 125 Times in 67 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dadhawk View Post
Known issue. It's because it is NOT weight sensitive but uses a current flow to detect. Most likely it is not your iPhone but you are charging your iPhone and the connector is in the seat. Several threads on this on here.

I can make my Droid Maxx do it at will. Insert the charging plug, lay on seat, I have a phantom passenger. Unplug, no passenger. Plug back in, lay the phone so that the charging plug is lifted off the seat and on the bolster, no passenger.

Things that are wet, or liquid can also set it off. Its similar to a touchscreen or biometric reader that uses a very low current charge to make a connection.
You learn new things everyday! Thanks for the insight!
Jrryjms07 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Jrryjms07 For This Useful Post:
Dadhawk (03-23-2015)
Old 03-24-2015, 03:28 AM   #14
JD86
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Drives: 2013 Toyota 86 GT
Location: Perth, Australia
Posts: 197
Thanks: 34
Thanked 135 Times in 85 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jadewbj View Post
Basically you just need to take the seat cover off the stock seat, pull the sensor pad and then put it in the new seat and plug it in to the harness.
Mine does work. Whilst I didn't do the install myself I had a chat with the guys that did, and that's how it goes.
JD86 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Greddy informeter, boost sensor, boost sensor harness, info touch sensor apaptor Supra2k Audio/Visual, Electronics, Infotainment, NAV 1 02-26-2014 08:11 PM
Stock FA20 Crankshaft Angle Sensor - Anyone know what type of sensor and output? Acree Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 2 08-26-2013 06:39 PM
Defeating Occupant Detection Sensor TuxedoCartman Cosmetic Modification (Interior/Exterior/Lighting) 0 11-16-2012 12:48 AM
Understanding the BRZ/FR-S/86 Occupant Detection Sensor Turbowned Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB 13 08-27-2012 10:58 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.