First Spy Pics of Scion FR-S / Toyota FT-86 Production Test Mule! (Updated 5/17)

[xantonin]

You have to remember that this car is being DEVELOPED with Subaru.

This doesn't mean that each manufacturer will have their own version with only TOYOTA parts, and Subaru with only Subbie parts.

It means both cars will have elements from both manufacturers, and this doesn't prove anything at all.

Also remember, the Toyota version is coming out first. There's no reason a Subaru version would be tested first. In fact, there's no proof a Subaru design has even started yet. They're not in a hurry.

[Infernal]

Originally Posted by Chokonen888

Those oddly round headlights and tails seem more subaruish than Toyota/Scion.

toyo has gone for round inserts in the rear clusters in the past:

[Chokonen888]

Originally Posted by xantonin

You have to remember that this car is being DEVELOPED with Subaru.

This doesn't mean that each manufacturer will have their own version with only TOYOTA parts, and Subaru with only Subbie parts.

It means both cars will have elements from both manufacturers, and this doesn't prove anything at all.

Also remember, the Toyota version is coming out first. There's no reason a Subaru version would be tested first. In fact, there's no proof a Subaru design has even started yet. They're not in a hurry.

I'm guessing for the most part that the front bumper, headlights, hood, fenders, doors, etc. will be swappable from each version. The FR-S concept even seems to indicate that when compared to the FT-86 II concept. Think Levin vs. Trueno, Firebird vs Camaro, same concept.

BTW, just because Subaru hasn't released the same info, pics etc doesn't mean the design doesn't exist.

Seeing as how they are all basically the same car underneath, it doesn't matter what version they are testing now as it will apply to all versions of this car.

[Chokonen888]

Originally Posted by Infernal

toyo has gone for round inserts in the rear clusters in the past:

True but the shape of the housing looks more inline with what Subaru has been releasing...for coupes =X

[xantonin]

What I'm saying is that trying to identify if this car is a Subaru or a Toyota based on design and/or part resemblance is pointless.

It's both.

Although the car will be the same underneath, I'm also saying it would be silly for the prototype to be driven around and tested with an un-released Subaru design.

In easier terms: I'm about 90% positive this is the Toyota version. The Subaru elements should be expected and are not conducive.

[vonreal]

Wow boring.... toyota going backwards if thats the production. It will then result in minimal sales followed by its discontinuation. One of the main reasons why I've grown to like this car are the head lights and tail lights. What happened to "exciting" lol.

[SOB]

Originally Posted by vonreal

Wow boring.... toyota going backwards if thats the production. It will then result in minimal sales followed by its discontinuation. One of the main reasons why I've grown to like this car are the head lights and tail lights. What happened to "exciting" lol.

The car looks very bland to me. You can make out most of the lines on the body underneath the vinyl and it still does not look very good.

[fernan2]

Originally Posted by vonreal

What happened to "exciting" lol.

that word died long time ago in the toyota diccionary! but all hope is not lost yet.

[gt-jerome]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Win.

yeah!!! i saw that on first page updated photos, and i wonder what was this logo!!! thank you for your answer!

[gt-jerome]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

I'm not sure if the taillights are really split? The trunk when opened will move back towards you a little and up while clearing the taillights.

woaw... great interpretation, nice light and shadow, but the evolution of the design is not good The face hasn't really change but the back is really sad... I hope it will be more beautifull in real

[Abflug]

honestly, comapring the LFA´s Erlkönig

http://www.celica-supra-team.ch/repo...upra1.jpg&Text=












to the production series




there are going to be a few changes!

My opinion - what´s yours?!

(and take care of the licenseplate )

[Chibi86]

Totally agree with Tom, don't worry about look of the car, trust Toyota, they need really go back in sport car Segment, if they not people will forget them for a lonnnnnggg time, they always did well by the past, give them a chance ! The LF-A is specially a good exemple.

They just want to lie to the other company / Paparazzi, and keep their baby in safe

[gt-jerome]

good example Tom

(i'm just afraid of the back, and the rear light... compare to the concepts)

[Matador]

Originally Posted by xantonin

What I'm saying is that trying to identify if this car is a Subaru or a Toyota based on design and/or part resemblance is pointless.

It's both.

This. OMG people. All versions of this car are going to be recognizable as siblings. There ain't going to be any radical changes between versions.