Has anyone actually seen any test-mules for the next gen cars?

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by JesseG

LOL!! Lots of funny replies in this thread. It looks like Toyota/Subie will be switching to a MR setup. Sweet!!!

But for serious, I really really really hope there will be a 2nd gen. This car is too damn awesome to end it.


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I’d be okay with another refresh like in ‘17. If that keeps the car alive, make small revisions all over that add up in the end. Although I doubt they can make that engine pass emissions without a turbo (no chance) or a mild hybrid setup (Tada has mentioned this in interviews in 2012/13).

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

I’ve read 2020 for the WRX and 2021 for the 86/BRZ, probably from the same publication that doesn’t seem to be too popular around here. You’d think the WRX one might have some truth to it as it’s based on the Impreza and the new one has been been out a few years now. I know it’s a stand alone model, but it’s still really a tuned Impreza. Interesting to see if anything comes out of the Tokyo motor show next month.

Again you read speculation not fact. Subaru has not released a single thing about when the WRX/STi will go to the new platform. What we do know at this point is that it will not be the 2020 model as claimed by so many sites.
They are also guess at a new BRZ coming out in 2021. There is not one single OFFICIALY document source that supports that date. Could be but it could also be 2025 for all we really know.

[James H]

The way it works nowadays, buyers don't care if the car has no platform, as long as they get Apple Carplay, Android Auto with a 12" screen, 16 way adjustable heated and cooled seats with AWD. Manufacturers will figure out by 2020 the best selling "sports car" is your living room attached to wheels and it can go from 0 to 60 in under 4s.

[HKz]

I'm sure they are slowly examining the next gen...throughout the last couple of years while they were running the supra mules at the nurburgring, there were plenty of 86s with manufacturer plates on them. plus toyota just created their own private mini-nurburgring testing course, who knows what is being driven in secrecy over there ^^

[MJones_RB]

Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with the current design. I still have people complimenting my car's looks. It has a timeless quality that would be hard to improve upon. I mean, you can stick a bunch of vents on it, or add profile lines, etc. I'm happy with how it looks right now.

[ichitaka05]

K, here's some stuff for next gen.
-They're still working on design on paper, so highly doubt they're in Mule testing things out.
-A lot of online article claiming next 86 will have FA24. Again, they're still working on the paper, so FA24 isn't only engine option on the table.
-HP increase? Some article claim, it'll have 220 or more hp... I wouldn't hold my breath on it.
-2021 isn't official release date. That's guestimate from online "car-expert" claims and nothing official from Toyota or Subaru.

Lil Off-Topic, but article about how Toyota is working on MR2 with Porsche. That's a false. Tada-san stated "Would be cool to work with Porsche to make new MR2." and nothing about they're working with Porsche to make new MR2.

[JD001]

I think this is going to be it... Forget the idea of a 2 door coupe from Subaru...

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by JD001

I think this is going to be it... Forget the idea of a 2 door coupe from Subaru...

With some real headlights added I would buy that in a heartbeat!

[JD001]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

With some real headlights added I would buy that in a heartbeat!

I would consider it too.. my wife thinks it looks like a Merc.... It looks like it's carrying some serious bhp..

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

K, here's some stuff for next gen.
-They're still working on design on paper, so highly doubt they're in Mule testing things out.
-A lot of online article claiming next 86 will have FA24. Again, they're still working on the paper, so FA24 isn't only engine option on the table.
-HP increase? Some article claim, it'll have 220 or more hp... I wouldn't hold my breath on it.
-2021 isn't official release date. That's guestimate from online "car-expert" claims and nothing official from Toyota or Subaru.

Lil Off-Topic, but article about how Toyota is working on MR2 with Porsche. That's a false. Tada-san stated "Would be cool to work with Porsche to make new MR2." and nothing about they're working with Porsche to make new MR2.

To all the disbelievers





The car sites make money by clicks. If they can get people to click by writing fiction they will write fiction. It has already been proven that much of the "insider" info on the original FT86 concept came from this very forum and was speculation and rumour presented as facts. Those "insider" facts were very very wrong. It doesn't matter who they claimed said what since they will take sentence out of context and twist them around until they get what they think people will want to hear. Once one site makes something up the rest will run with it since they want clicks as well. Sure in the scheme of things it isn't a big deal but people believe this stuff and make decisions based upon it even when their data is all false.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by JD001

I would consider it too.. my wife thinks it looks like a Merc.... It looks like it's carrying some serious bhp..

Probably a render with zero HP

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by JD001

I would consider it too.. my wife thinks it looks like a Merc.... It looks like it's carrying some serious bhp..

So do the twins...

[scuzzy]

I'm guilty of stirring the rumor pot any time I stumble across sites speculating or even "confirming" a next gen car. But I like the platform and I like to dream.

October 24th the Tokyo Motor Show kicks off and what shows up and doesn't show up will answer a lot of questions.

Now I'm going to wait 5 minutes and go read about rumors of what might appear in Tokyo next month based on this thread.

[Dirty Harry]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Again you read speculation not fact. Subaru has not released a single thing about when the WRX/STi will go to the new platform. What we do know at this point is that it will not be the 2020 model as claimed by so many sites.
They are also guess at a new BRZ coming out in 2021. There is not one single OFFICIALY document source that supports that date. Could be but it could also be 2025 for all we really know.

Yeah you’re right, I read it somewhere and it’s pure speculation. BRZ/86 no idea or gut feel as to when the next gen of that one will come out. IMO/gut feel, I think the WRX might next year as the current shape Impreza came out in 2016 and next year will be the 7th year of the model cycle.

Disclaimer: Just my opinion with no basis of fact, just past history and where its donor car is in the model cycle.