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Old 10-06-2016, 02:41 PM   #1695
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Using an ideal mix of distilled water and antifreeze might help. Cosworth recommend 25% ethylene glycol I believe.
It's something like that. The key is to not sure too much antifreeze as it lowers the specific heat capacity of the fluid. So use as little as you need but enough to help against corrosion.
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Old 10-06-2016, 02:47 PM   #1696
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It's something like that. The key is to not sure too much antifreeze as it lowers the specific heat capacity of the fluid. So use as little as you need but enough to help against corrosion.
It was your post I went and looked up to find that
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Old 10-06-2016, 04:08 PM   #1697
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I'm seeing about the same IATs as you; typically 30 deg F over ambient (based on my vent gauge plugged into the OBD2 port). i was kicking around the nutty idea of 'what would happen if someone reroutes the passenger-side air conditioning vent into the air intake?' if you normally drive with the AC on.

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Old 10-06-2016, 04:33 PM   #1698
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diverting AC air to the intake would do nothing. A more interesting (but more involved) hack I've actually seen done is to re-route your AC lines into a water tank to chill the A/W intercooler water supply. If you are getting IAT's that are too high during street driving one of the best things you can do is add a reservoir/tank to increase the total water volume of the system. Water has a very high specific heat capacity. Adding extra water allows you to absorb more heat energy per degree of water temp increase. This gives you the net effect of distributing the heat dissipation out over a longer time so any quick spikes due to spirited driving can be absorbed.

This behavior is what makes air to water intercoolers so great for street cars. It also makes things more challenging for race cars since they tend to be dumping heat into the system at a more constant rate rather than in spikes like you see on the street. The water can eventually become heat-soaked leading to higher IATs
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Old 10-06-2016, 05:37 PM   #1699
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diverting AC air to the intake would do nothing.
Would it be 'nothing' or 'negligible'? I'm assuming it'd be the same as people installing a CAI - to get the coolest air going into the intake. however, if the AC air isn't cold enough to make a difference when it's compressed going into the SC, that makes sense.
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Old 10-06-2016, 08:18 PM   #1700
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Any one leave the cover off the left side injectors? The big heavy shield looking thing looks like it's mostly for noise I'm guessing. Opinions?
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Any one leave the cover off the left side injectors? The big heavy shield looking thing looks like it's mostly for noise I'm guessing. Opinions?
It's also part of the ground for the fueling ECU. You can ditch it if you make a bracket.
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The fueling ecu is on the right side. Talking about the left side.
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Old 10-15-2016, 12:37 AM   #1704
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The fueling ecu is on the right side. Talking about the left side.
Oh my bad. That cover only fits on with modification anyways. You are supposed to leave it off.
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Need help asap just installed and no start. Not running a tune. But you would think it would still fire up. I have fuel everything is connected.
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Need help asap just installed and no start. Not running a tune. But you would think it would still fire up. I have fuel everything is connected.
It will not start. The T-MAP sensor is very different then stock. You need the tune.
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It will not start. The T-MAP sensor is very different then stock. You need the tune.
that is 100% you know form experience?
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Not running a tune.
Why would you do that?
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