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View Poll Results: How many 86 owners are planning on getting the Supra?
I'm definitely getting one 19 12.84%
I might get one if they offer a MT 60 40.54%
No, not me. 69 46.62%
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Old 05-14-2019, 10:53 AM   #1121
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Our trunk is pretty small with the rear seats up and the Supra is a hatchback and wider. Put the rear seats down and we get a ton more space.
The Supra's really small access opening is what is making it look smaller than it is.
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Old 05-14-2019, 10:55 AM   #1122
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I wouldn't even bother giving Doug the satisfaction of the clicks.
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True, but I'm going off real world testing, not manufacturer's published figures. (Which are usually conservative anyway, so Supra could be faster)

Also, nothing stupid to worry about with the Caymans hitting any sort of fake speed limiter on top end.
towards in the end with the red car he was able to do 0-60 in 4.0 sec and the 1/4 mile in 12.5 sec.

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Old 05-14-2019, 01:48 PM   #1124
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If people want REAL car reviews even for a minivan I STRONGLY suggest looking into SavageGeese.


No B.S. and not trying to sell you shaving cream to "make ends meet"
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Old 05-14-2019, 02:03 PM   #1125
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RZ, SZ-R & SZ all are 1,000,000 yen difference (roughly $10k). Let's say Toyota US follow same concept, 3.0 Premium cost $53,990, so we could see 4 cylinder Premium ver at $43,990. 3.0 Base cost $49,990, so we could see base 4 cylinder ver at $39,990. So around $40k~$44k for 255hp/295tq that barely under 3,200lbs. (1,450kg) That price is 370Z, Mustang, Camaro price point.. But they're boat! But they have a lot more power plus MT option.

So in the end, you gotta pick your battle.
I'd 100% buy the 4-cylinder Supra for ~$40K.


I just want the chasis & suspension of the new Supra with 'decent' power. The 86 already has enough power for me, I'd be happy in a ~250hp 4-cylinder Supra.
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I wouldn't even bother giving Doug the satisfaction of the clicks.
Nobody else gives me consistent accurate impressions of what a door closing sounds like though
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If people want REAL car reviews even for a minivan I STRONGLY suggest looking into SavageGeese.


No B.S. and not trying to sell you shaving cream to "make ends meet"
I like Mr. Goose, he's well known around here since his ownership of an FRS and subsequent videos really helped propel his YouTube channel early on five or six years ago. Lots of people didn't like his clickbait titles and criticism of the car, but now he pulls more views than most magazines.

Props to him for putting cars on a lift and talking about what's going on underneath, critical if you care about that kind of stuff and nobody else really bothers, I'll watch the cars I'm interested in on his channel solely for that segment. I think his bitter negativity is fading as he left whatever office job he had before.

He doesn't hold a candle to Doug though when it comes to counting cup holders and interior switch gear.

@Tcoat well duh you're going to get a better idea of a car walking around it for fifteen minutes (except for putting it on a lift), better check out of this thread for the next month if you don't want to hear a bunch of gen Xers with cameras talk nostalgically about cars that came out when they were 12.
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For the first time in my life, I don't think black is even the 2nd best color on a particular sports car. Thanks for the pics!
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I'd 100% buy the 4-cylinder Supra for ~$40K.


I just want the chasis & suspension of the new Supra with 'decent' power. The 86 already has enough power for me, I'd be happy in a ~250hp 4-cylinder Supra.
Sadly, for B46 (4 cylinders) to come to US isnít up to Tada-san to decide. Itís Toyota US to decide. I hope to see it happen... but only time will tell
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@Tcoat well duh you're going to get a better idea of a car walking around it for fifteen minutes (except for putting it on a lift), better check out of this thread for the next month if you don't want to hear a bunch of gen Xers with cameras talk nostalgically about cars that came out when they were 12.
I don't mean I could get a better idea I could give a better idea. Maybe I should buy a camera and start my own segments.
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I'd 100% buy the 4-cylinder Supra for ~$40K.


I just want the chasis & suspension of the new Supra with 'decent' power. The 86 already has enough power for me, I'd be happy in a ~250hp 4-cylinder Supra.
I heard someone drove the four banger Z4 say the turn in was way better than the I6, lighter weight was noticeable. And I know the b48 easily pumps out 300 ft-lbs and 250 HP with the boost turned up, our tuner claimed those were wheel numbers out of the lower spec engine with some boost added, dialed back for fear of breaking axles which turned out to happen anyway. Not sure how much headroom is left in that engine but stock for stock I'd bet on a stock Z4 I4 over the stock mk4 TT Supra. They'll sell the I4 Supra in Japan but it sounds like we won't get a coupe b48 car at that price and the base Z4 starts at $50k here, not worth it unless you want the cloth top.
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I don't mean I could get a better idea I could give a better idea. Maybe I should buy a camera and start my own segments.
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@Ichi, B48, not B46

And looking it up the Zupra doesn't have the highest output versions of either engine so there's still some headroom to tune it and push up to gentleman's agreement numbers at the wheels in theory. BMW also chokes engines with exhaust so a cat back could actually post gains on these cars. Header intake tune, I bet Supras are pushing past 400whp with just bolt ons this time next year.
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2020 Supra goes 0-60 in 3.8s in C&D instrumented test

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Time will tell. Overall I like the new look, power looks good. Great GT card with some handling chops. Love the stock exhaust. Sadly out of my price range by a long shot. Lets hope this venture is successful as it will encourage them to build more sport cars in era where EVs might make auto executives think twice about low volume low profit sports cars.
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I found this interesting but it is very long and is not the type of review that everyone else is doing. His real review will come next week.

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