2nd gear synchro FIX- MT owners read this thread - Page 5 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Marrk · 10-09-2012, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esoteric

ok ok... It's data you want!

So, I have been waiting to get some used oil analysis back before I go posting. Sad thing is, as a bussiness I have to be a little more formal when I post, so I hold off of "fun" posts... Boring really, but I look like a jerk if its not all on the up and up.

Anyhow, let me just contribute our findings after several track days and thousands of miles with the new redline product I have been waiting for... MT85. What they advertise as being the "redline of synchromesh" if you read between the lines.
We also have the Pentosin (good call by our friend above) as well as BG Snycroshift II (the synthetic version).

So far, the redline has seen the most diverse conditions (ambient between 48 and 95 degrees Fahrenheit) and everything from 250 miles constant highway, city and of course several hundred track miles at full blast.

The combination of the perrin shift bushing and redline are SUPURB. The stock shift knob works a whole hell of a lot better and no more odd grinds! I still prefer our prototype shift knob (lighter and taller than OEM).

More to come... UOA etc, etc (sorry if this is hard to read, I typed it on my phone and was eager to contribute)

You forgot the data. Hehe.

wheelhaus · 10-09-2012, 07:34 PM

Yes YESSS!! Where's the data???

ft86Fan · 10-09-2012, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esoteric

Anyhow, let me just contribute our findings after several track days and thousands of miles with the new redline product I have been waiting for... MT85. What they advertise as being the "redline of synchromesh" if you read between the lines.
We also have the Pentosin (good call by our friend above) as well as BG Snycroshift II (the synthetic version).

So far, the redline has seen the most diverse conditions (ambient between 48 and 95 degrees Fahrenheit) and everything from 250 miles constant highway, city and of course several hundred track miles at full blast.

The combination of the perrin shift bushing and redline are SUPURB. The stock shift knob works a whole hell of a lot better and no more odd grinds! I still prefer our prototype shift knob (lighter and taller than OEM).

More to come... UOA etc, etc (sorry if this is hard to read, I typed it on my phone and was eager to contribute)

So you prefer the MT-85 over the MT-90? Any concerns that Toyota calls for a SAE 75W-90 oil? Did the MT-85 solve the 2nd gear issue? Thanks.

Brzer · 10-17-2012, 07:40 PM

Been doing some research as I wanted to meet OEM specs when changing out fluids after break-in. My dealership service manager inquired at the regional level and one does not have to use the owner's manual specified Toyota MG Gear OIL special II. GL-4 is fine. Motorcraft XT-M5-QS is highly recommended on the Miata message boards for smoothing out transmission notchiness. It is GL-3 compatible and is made in Germany for Ford, I am not sure by whom. It is a 75w-90 oil and lists for just over $21 a quart but I found a local Ford dealer who sells it for $17.50. I am going to try it out. Will post what I think when I get it done. Also an email responce to my inquiry from Pentosin stated that MTF2 has not been tested in the BRZ and that they could not recommend its use in our vehicle. See link below.
http://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricant...ission%20Fluid

Brzer · 10-17-2012, 11:37 PM

Might have been to quick to post the recommendation for the Motorcraft oil. I came across this post.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showt...=1#post5581498
Will have to investigate further.

gmookher · 10-18-2012, 01:00 AM

where are 2formes results?

2forme · 10-18-2012, 07:31 AM

Oil JUST came in. Gotta go to the shop and see when they have time.

2forme · 10-19-2012, 11:13 AM

Gear Oil is being changed right now.

gmookher · 10-19-2012, 11:22 AM

........drumroll............

gmookher · 10-19-2012, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DYOLF26

I work at a Toyota/Scion dealership in Kansas and the Toyota brand 0W20 oil we get comes in drums and says SN on the description. Why do you say you pass on the sn type? What does it mean?

I'm an oil snob, and you should be too...
VI is lower on the newer toyota SN, whereas their older SM formula was an industry leader.

That said, the subaru SM oil is great too. Right now I'm drinking the eneos sustina, and its yummy in 0w-20
btw, the only redline product I use is their 85-140wt diff oil in my trucks arb locker

DanoFA20 · 10-19-2012, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmookher

My M3 tracks VERY well...

completely random question but i have an E36 95 M3 aswell, but im selling it, do you know anyone interested in one?

gmookher · 10-20-2012, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanoFA20

completely random question but i have an E36 95 M3 aswell, but im selling it, do you know anyone interested in one?

post a thread in the member classified section, you never know I may be into it!

DanoFA20 · 10-20-2012, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmookher

post a thread in the member classified section, you never know I may be into it!

thanks man :-) its real nice.

M3power326 · 10-21-2012, 02:50 AM

I'm probably going to try the Pentosin in my FR-S here soon. I'm a fellow ///M owner too

e46 m3

10-17-2012, 07:40 PM	#60
Brzer Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: BRZ, 2011 Outback 3.6R Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 41 Thanks: 5 Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My research experience. Been doing some research as I wanted to meet OEM specs when changing out fluids after break-in. My dealership service manager inquired at the regional level and one does not have to use the owner's manual specified Toyota MG Gear OIL special II. GL-4 is fine. Motorcraft XT-M5-QS is highly recommended on the Miata message boards for smoothing out transmission notchiness. It is GL-3 compatible and is made in Germany for Ford, I am not sure by whom. It is a 75w-90 oil and lists for just over $21 a quart but I found a local Ford dealer who sells it for $17.50. I am going to try it out. Will post what I think when I get it done. Also an email responce to my inquiry from Pentosin stated that MTF2 has not been tested in the BRZ and that they could not recommend its use in our vehicle. See link below. http://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricant...ission%20Fluid

10-17-2012, 11:37 PM	#61
Brzer Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: BRZ, 2011 Outback 3.6R Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 41 Thanks: 5 Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Change my mind Might have been to quick to post the recommendation for the Motorcraft oil. I came across this post. http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showt...=1#post5581498 Will have to investigate further.

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