GReddy ITBs!!!

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by FunnyGopher

Oh no, I watched that party happen. No flame here. I made this thread to point out the fact the GReddy one uses the stock throttle body in it's design, because that's amazing.

The SARD version doesn't have any type of valve or actuator unit to replace the factory throttle body mechanism, so I am guessing it reuses the factory TB as well.

The "tune" that SARD wants to sell with the kit seems like an average off the shelf ECU tune, plus there is no requirement to buy another throttle body.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by 86_IT

Mike, if you want an NA Full Ace setup to test on, I can be your guy.

CSG has a 2017 test mule with a full Ace setup . I suspect multiple ITBs may be tested on this car. Currently the test mule is boosted, but that's been on and off the car several times.

Just to clarify, my 2017 is my own 2017.

[86_IT]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

CSG has a 2017 test mule with a full Ace setup . I suspect multiple ITBs may be tested on this car. Currently the test mule is boosted, but that's been on and off the car several times.

Just to clarify, my 2017 is my own 2017.

I figured. Just saying

[Dr. BRZ]

Originally Posted by 86_IT

Mike, if you want an NA Full Ace setup to test on, I can be your guy.

We need catless results, not catted. We know how strict Cali is with their emissions.

[86_IT]

Originally Posted by Dr. BRZ

We need catless results, not catted. We know how strict Cali is with their emissions.

I'm fully catless. I live where there is no smog testing.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by 86_IT

I'm fully catless. I live where there is no smog testing.

Where in California do you live where there is no smog testing?

[86_IT]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Where in California do you live where there is no smog testing?

Northern Sonoma county.

[cyde01]

Originally Posted by mav1178

You're a month late to the flame party:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123226
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123203

Well, there were 2 new things I learned from this thread that wasn't in the other threads. 1. The itbs are linked to the oem throttle body which i assume is for ecu tuning purposes 2. Greddy has a plenumless velocity stack option on the way

It seems like both the Sard and Greddy kit use AE111 4A-GE itbs. So that would mean any difference in performance would be strictly from the airflow from the different plenum designs. Really excited to see testing results!

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Dr. BRZ

We need catless results, not catted. We know how strict Cali is with their emissions.

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Where in California do you live where there is no smog testing?

https://www.bar.ca.gov/pdf/Program_Map.pdf

A lot of places in CA don't have a smog requirement. Emissions checks mostly fall in line with topography, i.e. areas of the state where pollutants collect at lower elevations and are an issue.

Originally Posted by cyde01

1. The itbs are linked to the oem throttle body which i assume is for ecu tuning purposes 2.

As I mentioned before, I'm fairly certain SARD uses some variation of the OE throttle body as well, there's no requirement to buy the ECU tune as part of the throttle body and my emails with Japan have not revealed any need to buy a throttle body replacement of any sort. The kit itself does not have any motor mechanism for the ITBs either.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by 86_IT

Northern Sonoma county.

I might need to figure out a way to register in your zip code.

There's a few of those down here in SoCal too, but I have no idea what the zip codes are.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I might need to figure out a way to register in your zip code.

There's a few of those down here in SoCal too, but I have no idea what the zip codes are.

https://smogcheck.ca.gov/pdf/Program_Map.pdf

https://smogcheck.ca.gov/pubwebquery...ZipLookup.aspx

Any address in Inyo County, for example. So any of the towns on your way up to Mammoth.

Or Julian, CA 92036.

[NRXRaptor]

Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh

But how would it fit with a supercharger? And which one?

Definitely not the edelbrock lol

[NRXRaptor]

Originally Posted by 86_IT

Northern Sonoma county.

No smog testing here in mendocino county either. Lots of country bumpkins rolling coal

[gtengr]

Originally Posted by cyde01

It seems like both the Sard and Greddy kit use AE111 4A-GE itbs. So that would mean any difference in performance would be strictly from the airflow from the different plenum designs. Really excited to see testing results!

The Greddy also comes with a throttle body synchronizer and electronic AFR dongle for equalizing the cylinders. And agree on anticipation for the results. I'm guessing they will have notably different torque curves. People will probably be experimenting with their own stacks soon too since getting the mechanicals sorted is the hard part.