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the maps are there as a plug and play option if you dont want to or cant get a real tuning session on a dyno or whatever. the maps are generally conservative. if you want the real deal, just go to a competent tuner and get a real tune.
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Dumb question - if you did take the car in for a real tune, then could not that map/data be shared so that everyone could get similar performance?
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If you are going far enough to get a fully tunable solution spend the extra time and money with someone that can tune it on a loading dyno and get everything right.
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one thing that Cobb does is offer both "off the shelf" base maps and free tuning software so that you (or a pro) can tune/flash the ecu. the OTS maps are usually conservative because they have to be safe enough so that anyone can use them. Cobb also tests their OTS maps extensively, and revises them if people see common problems. |
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Thanks guys, that makes perfect sense. Does the warranty become void if you have it tuned?
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June of 2012???? OMG!!!!! U R KILLING ME!!!
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YES!!!!!!!! you can always reflash the original ROM that came with the car, but there may or may not be traces of the flash and/or flash counters, etc. imo, the best advice is to assume there are traces and be prepared. if you cannot afford to fix your car, DONT TUNE IT!!!
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Thanks Matador! Perfect transaltion.
I'll try to put some light on these sentences wich aren't very clear: "I missed a stiffer direction" - By stiffer direction he means a wheel you need to apply more force to to make it turn. (Probably to make direction more sensitive) "Its lightness, quick turn in (?) and the smoothness..." - Here, he refers to the speed with wich the forward wheels react to drivers input on the wheel. The lack of lag between the moment the driver turns the wheel and the car starts to turn. "With a few quick developments (huh?), the rpm rises..." - This is a clear case of a lingustic "false friend" In Spanish "desarrollo" means both "developement" and "gear ratio" Therefore "con unos desarrollos muy cortos" means "with very short gear ratios" The rest, as I said before, is perfect. I wish I could speak both languages as good as you.
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so is he saying the steering feels light? EPS better not mess up the steering! |
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The only real downside is that you pretty much need a laptop, or at least a really long USB cord, as the OpenPort needs to be connected to a computer in order to work. Usually in the $400-$500 range. Most tuners can work with the AccessPort, but there are also many that comfortable working with the open source solution as well. |
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"It has two types of transmission. The one I tried was equipped with a 6 speed manual. They assured me that there would be two gear ratio options, following the country [market] that it will go to or the taste of the customer (lolwtfbbqwaffles?!?!?! Implying perhaps different ratios between hi spec and low spec or different gear ratios/final drives for different markets)." Also, in the part of the article related with the brochure leak, he speaks again about the two different gear ratios options. I guess that now it makes more sense to you, true?
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By the way the reporter said that, I don't think it's a too much light, bad or numb direction at all. He was just pointing that as one of the improvements the car might need. If the car ends up with a good direction feeling, we should be a bit grateful to him
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