Modifying a Limited Production Car? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ashtray · 11-29-2011, 12:12 AM

Toyota has put us in a bit of a quandary. They have designed this car with the expectation that owners will modify it, yet we (as the potential first owners) are the same people who complain that there are no good used AE86's, S14's, Supras, or Z34's left that havent been modified. Finding an original unmolested car can be near impossible for these types of cars.

So if they're only going to make a few thousand per year, should we modify as goodies come to the aftermarket, or save the car as a pure well kept example? (I think many people now save the original parts when they mod their car, but some mods are irreversible.)

Dave-ROR · 11-29-2011, 12:15 AM

Don't do anything irreversible. That's my plan.

Username · 11-29-2011, 12:16 AM

^ seconded

Dark · 11-29-2011, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Don't do anything irreversible. That's my plan.

aliphian · 11-29-2011, 12:39 AM

I'm just scared that the lack of production will kill any chances of decent aftermarket support. Although, knowing Subaru, this engine will be around for a few decades so most companies will likely see long term value in developing parts for it.

FT-86Mike · 11-29-2011, 01:46 AM

Who cares??? Looks like they are only making 1000 per year... So you wont get one in the first place to modify... LOL at least that was the "FACT FROM JAPAN" we got.

NorCalRider · 11-29-2011, 02:52 AM

I plan on modding mine. I like my cars a certain way and no matter if it's a limited production run or not, that won't stop me.

ashtray · 11-29-2011, 02:54 AM

Yes, but if you DO wait 18 months with a deposit to get one - do you dare mod it?

I'll add WRX's to the list too - they made a ton but everyone mods them, myself included.

WhiteGDB · 11-29-2011, 03:06 AM

I don't believe the supposed production figures, even if they were for each model. I think they'll makes as much as they can sell. Initial numbers may be low to create a type of frenzy, but after that I don't see any limit in production.

NorCalRider · 11-29-2011, 03:06 AM

I already put down a deposit at the scion dealership, so I am at the top of the list there. I have dealt with them before and plan on paying with cash so I don't foresee an issue. My warranty's tend to be voided due to the mods I do also, so no problems here.

Levi · 11-29-2011, 07:48 AM

I do not believe in limited quantity. There should have been some misunderstanding. The car is has not yet been 100 % revealed, there are already so many of them in the pics we have. A limited production car does not have so many cars available. For intance how many of these did you see at lunch: M3 GTS, M3 CRT, R8 GT, WRX STI Spec C, C AMG BS, 911 GT3 RS 4.0, One-77,....Even for the lunch of the 1 Series M, which is not limited in numbers there were only three of them.

11-29-2011, 12:12 AM	#1
ashtray As Seen On The Internet Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 2003 WRX, 2013 BRZ, 442 Location: SoCal Posts: 852 Thanks: 23 Thanked 251 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Modifying a Limited Production Car? Toyota has put us in a bit of a quandary. They have designed this car with the expectation that owners will modify it, yet we (as the potential first owners) are the same people who complain that there are no good used AE86's, S14's, Supras, or Z34's left that havent been modified. Finding an original unmolested car can be near impossible for these types of cars. So if they're only going to make a few thousand per year, should we modify as goodies come to the aftermarket, or save the car as a pure well kept example? (I think many people now save the original parts when they mod their car, but some mods are irreversible.)

11-29-2011, 12:15 AM	#2
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	Don't do anything irreversible. That's my plan. __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

11-29-2011, 12:39 AM	#5
aliphian Dreamer Join Date: Mar 2011 Drives: Nutless Grocery Getter Location: California Posts: 375 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm just scared that the lack of production will kill any chances of decent aftermarket support. Although, knowing Subaru, this engine will be around for a few decades so most companies will likely see long term value in developing parts for it. __________________ "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."

11-29-2011, 02:52 AM	#7
NorCalRider Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2009 Toytoa Tacoma 4x4 Dbl Cab LB Location: Nor Cal Posts: 215 Thanks: 150 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I plan on modding mine. I like my cars a certain way and no matter if it's a limited production run or not, that won't stop me. __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ Limited(on order) 2012 Vw Jetta Sportwagen TDI 6mt Navi and Pano 2009 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 Double Cab Long Bed 1994 Honda Civic HB TurboCharged Track Car

11-29-2011, 03:06 AM	#10
NorCalRider Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2009 Toytoa Tacoma 4x4 Dbl Cab LB Location: Nor Cal Posts: 215 Thanks: 150 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I already put down a deposit at the scion dealership, so I am at the top of the list there. I have dealt with them before and plan on paying with cash so I don't foresee an issue. My warranty's tend to be voided due to the mods I do also, so no problems here. __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ Limited(on order) 2012 Vw Jetta Sportwagen TDI 6mt Navi and Pano 2009 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 Double Cab Long Bed 1994 Honda Civic HB TurboCharged Track Car

11-29-2011, 12:16 AM	#3
Username Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 6MT Raven FRS, Toyota SR5 V6 4x4 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 154 Thanks: 159 Thanked 18 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^ seconded

11-29-2011, 01:46 AM	#6
FT-86Mike Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: S-13 Location: United States Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Who cares??? Looks like they are only making 1000 per year... So you wont get one in the first place to modify... LOL at least that was the "FACT FROM JAPAN" we got.

11-29-2011, 02:54 AM	#8
ashtray As Seen On The Internet Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 2003 WRX, 2013 BRZ, 442 Location: SoCal Posts: 852 Thanks: 23 Thanked 251 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Yes, but if you DO wait 18 months with a deposit to get one - do you dare mod it? I'll add WRX's to the list too - they made a ton but everyone mods them, myself included.

11-29-2011, 03:06 AM	#9
WhiteGDB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Civic Si sedan Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 320 Thanks: 5 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't believe the supposed production figures, even if they were for each model. I think they'll makes as much as they can sell. Initial numbers may be low to create a type of frenzy, but after that I don't see any limit in production.

11-29-2011, 07:48 AM	#11
Levi Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: Toyota Location: Germany Posts: 1,202 Thanks: 134 Thanked 138 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I do not believe in limited quantity. There should have been some misunderstanding. The car is has not yet been 100 % revealed, there are already so many of them in the pics we have. A limited production car does not have so many cars available. For intance how many of these did you see at lunch: M3 GTS, M3 CRT, R8 GT, WRX STI Spec C, C AMG BS, 911 GT3 RS 4.0, One-77,....Even for the lunch of the 1 Series M, which is not limited in numbers there were only three of them.

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