smaller, lighter Nissan Zcar? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ZDan · 08-27-2013, 04:18 PM

http://www.motortrend.com/future/fut...35_in_pipline/

Looks like the next Z might actually take a step in the right direction:

While the car will feature a low-slung, swooping body, it will be downsized from the current 370Z to dimensions that resemble the original's. That means the car will lose around 2 inches in width from the current 72.6 inches. Our insider mentions that lightweight high-tensile steel will be used to further reduce the car's curb weight by up to 420 pounds to a class-leading 2866 pounds.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/future/fut...#ixzz2dCcyDrEg

OrbitalEllipses · 08-27-2013, 04:26 PM

2886 with that V6... hehe, that'd be tire-shredding fun.

ZDan · 08-27-2013, 04:28 PM

According to a source close to Nissan, the Z35 will be powered by a choice of V-6 and four-cylinder engines at first. Company bosses want to phase out the V-6, though a small but strong fan base might lead engineers to retain it.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/future/fut...#ixzz2dCflwpMU

FReSh · 08-27-2013, 05:02 PM

I'd love to see this. Even a 280 hp 2.5l turbo in a 2800lb RWD z would be quite a sweet package. Imagine if they kept it under $30,000!

autobrz · 08-27-2013, 05:08 PM

the twins are doing something very good. they're getting the competition to move in the same direction.

Sonolin · 08-27-2013, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by autobrz

the twins are doing something very good. they're getting the competition to move in the same direction.

this

I'm very happy that car manufacturers are really stepping up their game. From Ford's angle, the rumored changes are due to "fuel mileage" but I definitely think the strong sales from the 86 platform is pushing them over the edge to get something hopefully lighter than 3000 lbs.

From the way I look at it, either Toyota & Subaru should do this as well (and I definitely think they should) other manfucturers will and that will just lead to awesome competition in the cheaper end of the sports car market.

I'm sad the rx-7 is more upscale but that might be better as the original was so awesome.

thill · 08-27-2013, 05:29 PM

The fuel mileage and emission is definitely a big part of it. But I agree Toyoburu has proven that you can build a smaller, lighter, RWD sports coupe that does not put out massive power and be very successful.

It sounds like Nissan is moving towards this 240z, Mazda is serious about an RX-7, and I would not be surprised to see Honda, and Chevy throw their hats in the ring along with Ford and Hyundai.

Good stuff

Ahren · 08-27-2013, 06:24 PM

Toyota and Subraru did a great service to the enthusiast community. Soon we will have competition in this cheap rear wheel drive market which will make all the car better.

zigzagz94 · 08-27-2013, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FReSh

I'd love to see this. Even a 280 hp 2.5l turbo in a 2800lb RWD z would be quite a sweet package. Imagine if they kept it under $30,000!

They just dropped the price of the current Z34 to $29,990 USD. If the new Z35 does get smaller, coming in around 2800lbs, with a 280hp turbo 4, I'm assuming the price will drop slightly as well. I'm seeing a direct price competitor to the the BRZ limited.

Subaru will definately have to pull out that mid-life cycle power upgrade to compete.

GTB/ZR-1 · 08-27-2013, 09:40 PM

2866? I'll believe that when I see it...

Gary in NJ · 08-27-2013, 09:48 PM

As an owner of an original Z (I've owned 240Z's since 1983) I say too little too late Nissan. Those of us who have carried the torch for the 240Z have been clamoring for a car closer to the 240 then the bloated crap Nissan has been turning out for 30 years.

The first time I saw the -86 car concepts I thought to myself "someone finally decided to make a modern 240Z". Quite frankly, Toyota and Subaru have done what Nissan isn't capable of doing. Nissan thinks the friggin' Juke is a desirable car. They have completely lost their way.

Sport-Tech · 08-27-2013, 11:07 PM

The parameters for the car mentioned in that piece are extremely promising, I'd definitely be interested - with 2 provisos:

1. The car look nothing like that horrific concept rendering in the article - looks like something a Chinese car company would cook up.

2. They port over the wonderful Rev-Match system from the 370Z, making it an available option.

dem00n · 08-27-2013, 11:11 PM

I dunno know why you guys are thanking the twins, light RWD cars have been around for a while.

I still want an I6, it'd build up a cult fanbase if they went with that route...

Kelbyat07 · 08-27-2013, 11:13 PM

Interesting to see the impact that the twins have on the market

08-27-2013, 04:18 PM	#1
ZDan Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: '23 BRZ Location: Providence, RI Posts: 4,584 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,891 Times in 2,032 Posts Mentioned: 85 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	smaller, lighter Nissan Zcar? http://www.motortrend.com/future/fut...35_in_pipline/ Looks like the next Z might actually take a step in the right direction: While the car will feature a low-slung, swooping body, it will be downsized from the current 370Z to dimensions that resemble the original's. That means the car will lose around 2 inches in width from the current 72.6 inches. Our insider mentions that lightweight high-tensile steel will be used to further reduce the car's curb weight by up to 420 pounds to a class-leading 2866 pounds. Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/future/fut...#ixzz2dCcyDrEg

08-27-2013, 05:02 PM	#4
FReSh Dirt Trackin' Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: '13 Raven FR-S MT Location: Rockville, MD Posts: 294 Thanks: 67 Thanked 114 Times in 75 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I'd love to see this. Even a 280 hp 2.5l turbo in a 2800lb RWD z would be quite a sweet package. Imagine if they kept it under $30,000! __________________ My Car Journal

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08-27-2013, 09:48 PM	#11
Gary in NJ Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: WR Blue BRZ, 240Z Location: Amongst the twisty roads Posts: 587 Thanks: 21 Thanked 412 Times in 206 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	As an owner of an original Z (I've owned 240Z's since 1983) I say too little too late Nissan. Those of us who have carried the torch for the 240Z have been clamoring for a car closer to the 240 then the bloated crap Nissan has been turning out for 30 years. The first time I saw the -86 car concepts I thought to myself "someone finally decided to make a modern 240Z". Quite frankly, Toyota and Subaru have done what Nissan isn't capable of doing. Nissan thinks the friggin' Juke is a desirable car. They have completely lost their way. __________________ Phantom ESC, ECUtek Tune, Nameless Front Pipe & Axle Back, Enkei RS+M 17x8 et35, OEM+Ref

08-27-2013, 11:11 PM	#13
dem00n Member of the year - 2016 Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Scion FRS Location: New York Posts: 3,575 Thanks: 788 Thanked 2,427 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I dunno know why you guys are thanking the twins, light RWD cars have been around for a while. I still want an I6, it'd build up a cult fanbase if they went with that route... __________________ Friends don't let friends Plastidip

08-27-2013, 04:26 PM	#2
OrbitalEllipses Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Attitude Location: MD Posts: 10,046 Thanks: 884 Thanked 4,889 Times in 2,902 Posts Mentioned: 123 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	2886 with that V6... hehe, that'd be tire-shredding fun.

08-27-2013, 04:28 PM	#3
ZDan Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: '23 BRZ Location: Providence, RI Posts: 4,584 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,891 Times in 2,032 Posts Mentioned: 85 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	According to a source close to Nissan, the Z35 will be powered by a choice of V-6 and four-cylinder engines at first. Company bosses want to phase out the V-6, though a small but strong fan base might lead engineers to retain it. Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/future/fut...#ixzz2dCflwpMU

08-27-2013, 05:08 PM	#5
autobrz Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: Mazda 3 Location: round rock, tx Posts: 413 Thanks: 487 Thanked 108 Times in 74 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	the twins are doing something very good. they're getting the competition to move in the same direction.

08-27-2013, 05:29 PM	#7
thill Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2020 SS1LE (previous 13 BRZ owner) Location: North Pole Posts: 2,753 Thanks: 328 Thanked 1,463 Times in 802 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The fuel mileage and emission is definitely a big part of it. But I agree Toyoburu has proven that you can build a smaller, lighter, RWD sports coupe that does not put out massive power and be very successful. It sounds like Nissan is moving towards this 240z, Mazda is serious about an RX-7, and I would not be surprised to see Honda, and Chevy throw their hats in the ring along with Ford and Hyundai. Good stuff

08-27-2013, 06:24 PM	#8
Ahren Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: U.S.A Posts: 27 Thanks: 10 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Toyota and Subraru did a great service to the enthusiast community. Soon we will have competition in this cheap rear wheel drive market which will make all the car better.

08-27-2013, 11:07 PM	#12
Sport-Tech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Drives: TBD Location: Toronto Posts: 2,583 Thanks: 665 Thanked 685 Times in 386 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The parameters for the car mentioned in that piece are extremely promising, I'd definitely be interested - with 2 provisos: 1. The car look nothing like that horrific concept rendering in the article - looks like something a Chinese car company would cook up. 2. They port over the wonderful Rev-Match system from the 370Z, making it an available option.

08-27-2013, 11:13 PM	#14
Kelbyat07 Poor College Kid Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: ~.~ Location: Chicago Posts: 2,801 Thanks: 246 Thanked 2,182 Times in 1,249 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Interesting to see the impact that the twins have on the market __________________

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