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gramicci101 · 07-01-2014, 06:40 PM

Will you be coming out with upgraded head/valvespring packages to match the awesome new short block?

woode · 07-01-2014, 06:51 PM

Price?

MAPerformance · 07-01-2014, 07:04 PM

Yes sir! That is absolutely in the works.

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Will you be coming out with upgraded head/valvespring packages to match the awesome new short block?

MAPerformance · 07-01-2014, 07:06 PM

PM'd

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Originally Posted by woode

Price?

gramicci101 · 07-01-2014, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MAPerformance

Yes sir! That is absolutely in the works.

Any WAG HP numbers on what an NA high compression block and ported/polished/worked-over heads could push? I would love to see what a truly built NA engine running on E85 could do.

MAPerformance · 07-01-2014, 09:00 PM

Awww, that age old tricky question

I am not sure what the FA20 is capable of with the proper head set up. I would like to see if it can compete with the K series, but that is touch competition. I would like to see these hit the 250whp mark. Who knows, there is still a lot that we are learning about these.

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Any WAG HP numbers on what an NA high compression block and ported/polished/worked-over heads could push? I would love to see what a truly built NA engine running on E85 could do.

MAPerformance · 07-31-2014, 09:38 AM

We now have rod options! Pretty exciting that Manley has released their Turbo Tuff I beam rods for he FA20 now. We have been using these for years in the Evo game with really good success. Very tuff rods indeed. Also, a less expensive alternative to the Corrillos we offer as well. So hopefully we should have a short block build for most budgets

D K · 07-31-2014, 10:49 AM

Look into Pauter as well.

I was going with Carillo, but an EJ specialist pointed out that there were numerous failures with Carillo rods.
NOT saying it was due to the rods, just pointing out that there were higher number of failures WITH these rods.

Cunningham is another really good rod, but the lead time is crazy.

My $.02

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Originally Posted by MAPerformance

We now have rod options! Pretty exciting that Manley has released their Turbo Tuff I beam rods for he FA20 now. We have been using these for years in the Evo game with really good success. Very tuff rods indeed. Also, a less expensive alternative to the Corrillos we offer as well. So hopefully we should have a short block build for most budgets

cdrazic93 · 07-31-2014, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by D K

Look into Pauter as well.

I was going with Carillo, but an EJ specialist pointed out that there were numerous failures with Carillo rods.
NOT saying it was due to the rods, just pointing out that there were higher number of failures WITH these rods.

Cunningham is another really good rod, but the lead time is crazy.

My $.02

Ahh, but an EJ specialist isnt an FA specialist

SmsAlSuwaidi · 07-31-2014, 04:06 PM

Carrillo rods are fucking amazing so are manley

cdrazic93 · 07-31-2014, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MAPerformance

Yes sir. We are aware of the potential bearing issues with these engines, especially at the higher torque outputs. It's not my engine builders ideal situation to use OEM bearings, but there isn't a ton of options at the moment. However, we would be more than happy to upgrade to an aftermarket bearing of your choice no problem.

Do you know of any FA20 specific rod bearings?

D K · 07-31-2014, 07:07 PM

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Do you know of any FA20 specific rod bearings?

Neither King or ACL make them.

I can't remember which, but I think King is going out of business?

There is a way to machine the block to use bearings from another engine, but then you are stuck going that way forever.

JP · 08-01-2014, 06:23 AM

ACL has gone out of business

D K · 08-01-2014, 07:59 AM

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ACL has gone out of business

I knew it was one of them....

The other one doesnt make them for us, so what to do?

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