Crashed my '05 tC, picking up Firestorm FR-S Friday!

[Noob4Life]

I know the feeling of bad tires on a FWD. I was driving through a rain storm last winter in my Jetta with bad rear tires. I hit some train tracks at too much of an angle and ended up fish tailing. Luckily the road was flat so I was able to recover/. Glad you're okay given how bad the accident looks and congrats on the FR-S!

[Gixxersixxerman]

Originally Posted by cfusionpm

Allan McNish's crash from the 2012 Le Mans is probably a great example of energy distribution/rolling reducing a crash's intensity on driver:

Another good example of energy distribution.. They both lived as everyone knows, but neither walked away unhurt.. Considering the accident great safety equipment works wonders too

[ame]http://youtu.be/zEUrEPPABbY[/ame]


Also my ex flipped this car 3 times and walked away with just a small cut on her toe






Glad your ok.. And welcome to FRS ownership

[chuy21]

Side note: why do the lights on the car in the GT video flicker like that?

[Gixxersixxerman]

If they are LED its because the cycle rate of the led is off to the FPS of the video camera.. At least something along the lines of that.. I had to google it because everytime I seen a video with led lights, it would always flicker or blink and stuff


Edit.. One of the answers when googling

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...9003338AAsamhs

I can't find the site that went into huge detail about it

[ZDan]

Drives to fast for conditions, single-car wrecks tc, considers self "skilled driver". Goes from understeery tc to oversteery fr-s. Hmmm...

Get thee to some driver training, pronto! HPDE with known good instruction (on track and in classroom). Responsive rwd cars are very unforgiving of even minor errors in driving, and you must have committed major errors to get the back end of a tc out.
These kinds of accidents do not happen to "anyone". Judgement matters (avoiding trouble in first place), skill matters (getting out of it when/if limits are exceeded). Get some each!

Edit: some karting? Ok skills may exist. Judgement and equipment possibly need attention though!

Have fun w/ frs. Keep good tires under her! Drive carefully...

[sho220]

A beautiful car with all kinds of expensive mods and you wreck it because of bald tires?

I could be driving the biggest piece of crap beater on the road, but I guarantee it would have good tires on it!

[Orthow]

Originally Posted by cfusionpm

Was a combination of sweeping turn, wet roads, and tires on the end of their life cycle. I'm usually careful and drive that route every day to work. I don't accelerate or brake through the corner, just coast through after lifting gas maybe 3-400 yds before the curve. I guess I had too much momentum for the conditions that day. Can safely take it twice as fast when it's dry.

Lift throttle oversteer? Sounds like it. That's a huge mistake for a FWD owner who considers themselves "skilled".

Also, paramedic was dead wrong or you misinterpreted what he stated. Going limp is how you survive - tensing up is what causes massive injuries regardless of how much you lift, bro! When you take driving courses they teach you what to do in the case of an accident and never once have I heard you should tense up.

Last but certainly not least - you knew you had bald tires and drove around in bad conditions and paid the price. You could have seriously injured some one else on the roads - not good.

IMHO you got what you deserved. Lucky it was only a single car accident and you didn't hurt anyone else. You are not as skilled as you think and you paid for it. Call me a hater or an infamous FT86 "troll" but if you were my friend I would tell you all the same shit in person. I value life.

I don't think you should get an FRS - enough idiots have written them off with only FWD experience and you already wrote off a FWD in a rear breaking loose incident. Doesn't look good for your future.

[cfusionpm]

Originally Posted by Orthow

Lift throttle oversteer? Sounds like it. That's a huge mistake for a FWD owner who considers themselves "skilled".

Its how I've taken that same turn for nearly 10 years. Combination of bald tires and oily-slick rain caused it to slip. Yes, I could have slowed down more, but I had already slowed below 45mph and I usually take that turn at 70.

http://goo.gl/maps/jN5uM

[zaptorque]

Originally Posted by dem00n

Good to hear your okay.

But the real question is, is the FRS really safer then the tC?

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[zaptorque]

Originally Posted by Gixxersixxerman

Glad your ok.. And welcome to FRS ownership

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[zaptorque]

Originally Posted by Orthow

Lift throttle oversteer? Sounds like it. That's a huge mistake for a FWD owner who considers themselves "skilled".

Also, paramedic was dead wrong or you misinterpreted what he stated. Going limp is how you survive - tensing up is what causes massive injuries regardless of how much you lift, bro! When you take driving courses they teach you what to do in the case of an accident and never once have I heard you should tense up.

Last but certainly not least - you knew you had bald tires and drove around in bad conditions and paid the price. You could have seriously injured some one else on the roads - not good.

IMHO you got what you deserved. Lucky it was only a single car accident and you didn't hurt anyone else. You are not as skilled as you think and you paid for it. Call me a hater or an infamous FT86 "troll" but if you were my friend I would tell you all the same shit in person. I value life.

I don't think you should get an FRS - enough idiots have written them off with only FWD experience and you already wrote off a FWD in a rear breaking loose incident. Doesn't look good for your future.

The fuck pissed in your coffee this morning?

[Nerfbacon]

Originally Posted by Bristecom

That's why I don't mess around with tires. I don't even like summer tires because of their lack of tread/grooving/sipes for hydroplaning resistance. If you slip on something, you can still control it but if you hydroplane in a turn, you're pretty much screwed. Also, it's always better to put the tires with less tread up front for that reason.

I remember reading that summer tires are actually better in the wet(unless its a poorly designed summer tire) than an all season tire...unless of course you are using summer tires in the winter when its cold

[NOHOME]

Shit happened. Glad you are OK and no one else was involved. You most likely are a bit wiser than you were two weeks ago.

Due to the posi, the FRS's tail steps out pretty quick and the stock tires are not up to much as far as grip, so be warned.

Unless I am deliberately going out to misbehave, I leave the TC on; it does a pretty amazing job of preventing what happened to your old car.

[norsamerican]

ouch. Awesome that you didn't get hurt. Sucks that you lost the car.