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Supercharger Comparison: Innovate, Jackson, Kraftwerks, Vortech *Updated March 9 2014
I take no credit for these; all data compiled by @tendogy
http://imgur.com/a/F4D7w Quote:
Source dynos: Innovate Intercooled http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...65&postcount=1 Innovate 70mm pulley, non-intercooled http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...postcount=1914 Kraftwerks http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...89&postcount=1 Jackson Racing http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=53 Vortech http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=15 ***UPDATE*** Quote:
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Obviously this is good stuff, but who made it? Does it have the tuner info listed for each?
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Even happier now I went with Jackson!!!
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Would be interesting to see a smaller pulley on the vortech as it has the headroom to spin a bit faster, but can't complain as this is currently the best SC vs SC comparison as far as power goes.
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Ah, so not the same dyno?
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With that reasoning, every kit here has headroom to be spun faster. IMO, this is the best "out of the box with tune" comparison. Each setup is running a custom tune to maximize the potential of the given setup.
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as with anything, I'd take this with a grain of salt as it's comparing everything from cars with stock exhaust/cats to cars with full exhaust/no cats, catbacks, etc. I can only assume based on the variances in modifications on the cars, that there were also different dynos used as well (Even if they're all on dynojets, were they all on the same dynojet? I've seen numbers vary as much as 10hp on the same day between two different dynojets on the same car)
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It is good to see this comparison, even with non-identical cars you have a good idea of what to expect from each kit. Another great comparison would be a summary of the additional weight of each kit. I have seen numbers for the Innovate kits but not the others.
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The pulley swap is also popular with the vortech crowd, so it would be nice if it was on there... thats all I'm saying My opinion may be biased though lol
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Really interesting seeing all the superchargers compared like this. At first I was going to say it's unfair putting the JRSC in there with full catless exhaust, but it looks like there's not much difference between its results and (the similar unit) Kraftwerks SC with 2 cats and CBE. Not sure what to make of that.
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I've managed to get into contact with the individual who created these graphs. He did it as part of his research for his own purchase. I'll have the source dynos soon.
All in all, it's just data. I'm just trying to make sure the data is as complete as I can get it, as it's pretty difficult to get 5 different setups on the same dyno, same day, same conditions, unless you have a testing cell.... (Hmmmm Honda Racing/Honda Performance Development, can I call in a favor? I promise not to do bad things with the V6 S2000 [S3700?] while you guys are testing...) |
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That intercooled innovate plot is from innovate itself so it is a canned tune.
As with all dyno comparisons you have to take it with a grain of salt but all in all this is a very comprehensive look at the power/torque characteristics of each kit. If I was to do supercharging over again I would definitely go with one of the rotrex kits. |
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