2017 Toyota 86 - new name, styling, and more power

[TruRace]

Uh.... No. There is no need for all that. Just don't get your panties in a bunch when the words complaining or whining are used.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by TruRace

Uh.... No. There is no need for all that. Just don't get your panties in a bunch when the words complaining or whining are used.

Well we had a good run of civil conversation (both for and against) and some fun jokes before the name calling and accusations started at any rate.


Have fun ripping each other apart now guys.

[rookie]

Whining about other people stating their opinions, but thats none of my business.

[seito23]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Well we had a good run of civil conversation (both for and against) and some fun jokes before the name calling and accusations started at any rate.


Have fun ripping each other apart now guys.

Derp, What thread shall we destroy next, Brain?

[ToySub1946]

How many of us are actually going to sit on the ground to see the visual of the front bumper at the angle seen in all those pics ? Myself, I'm behind the steering wheel.

[KalbiCool88]

Originally Posted by seito23

Derp, What thread shall we destroy next, Brain?

The same thread we always destroy pinky, ft86club. And then, the world!

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[cyde01]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

That does nothing to make it more authoritive. In fact it reduces how official it is. Not saying he is wrong for one second just saying it is not official.

No see that's where you're wrong, and @OldSkoolToys can vouch with me on this. Moto-san is the founder of club4ag, a well known and respected member within the ae86 community and a fixture at ae86 events, who has a personal relationship with Tada-san because Tada-san and Toyota reached out to the ae86 community when first planning the car back in 2007, before the concept car was even revealed. All his inside info has been accurate and more detailed, and sometimes well in advance of news released by the automotive media concerning the frs/86. You really ought to know the history and learn about the people in this community who are in the know and deserving of respect before you go openly doubting and questioning a legitimate source like moto-san. Oldskooltoys, ichi, and everyone in ft86 and club4ag will vouch for me when i say that moto miwa is a legitimate source of info.

[cyde01]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Well we had a good run of civil conversation (both for and against) and some fun jokes before the name calling and accusations started at any rate.


Have fun ripping each other apart now guys.

Lol aside from questioning moto miwa, one of the founders and most respected members of the ae86 and new 86 community, it has remained civil i haven't noticed any name calling at all! People complained, then people complained about the complaining, then people complained about the people complaining about the complaining. Who cares, this is bound to happen, people aren't gonna always agree. It's all in good fun, right? But do learn who moto miwa is and give him respect! Lol

[BRZBlack]

I'll take the stereo controls on the wheel and keep my '13. Front is not so great, but admittedly better than my BRZ's, only slightly though.

[stevesnj]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

OK everybody that dislikes any aspect of the face lift just stop talking about it. Apparently we have pissed off the minority and in the spirit of political correctness we can no longer speak on the topic.

haha, no such thing, don't be silly. Just playing around and trying to bring some levity to this thread. It's a car, some like it some don't. It's plastic and metal and gas and oil. Let's just continue on with our lives!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

That does nothing to make it more authoritive. In fact it reduces how official it is. Not saying he is wrong for one second just saying it is not official.

Originally Posted by cyde01

No see that's where you're wrong, and @OldSkoolToys can vouch with me on this. Moto-san is the founder of club4ag, a well known and respected member within the ae86 community and a fixture at ae86 events, who has a personal relationship with Tada-san because Tada-san and Toyota reached out to the ae86 community when first planning the car back in 2007, before the concept car was even revealed. All his inside info has been accurate and more detailed, and sometimes well in advance of news released by the automotive media concerning the frs/86. You really ought to know the history and learn about the people in this community who are in the know and deserving of respect before you go openly doubting and questioning a legitimate source like moto-san. Oldskooltoys, ichi, and everyone in ft86 and club4ag will vouch for me when i say that moto miwa is a legitimate source of info.

I know perfectly well who he is am very familiar with his body of work and track record. In fact I have him as a Facebook friend (makes us almost related by today's standards). I don't think my comment was in any way disrespectful or that I was "doubting " him at all. In fact I thought I was clear in saying I didn't doubt him. I simply stated that what he provides is not official company statements and since even he is not likely subject to minute by minute updates he could be mistaken or misinformed. I very much doubt that Tada is still working on this car anyway and if he is then Toyota is squandering valuable resources on routine projects.

Originally Posted by cyde01

Lol aside from questioning moto miwa, one of the founders and most respected members of the ae86 and new 86 community, it has remained civil i haven't noticed any name calling at all! People complained, then people complained about the complaining, then people complained about the people complaining about the complaining. Who cares, this is bound to happen, people aren't gonna always agree. It's all in good fun, right? But do learn who moto miwa is and give him respect! Lol

I am also well aware of how the internet and this forum works and will fight fire with fire when people start flaming me or others because they disagree. I may not (usually) fire the first shot but am prepared to continue the battle if anybody wishes to go that route. My passive aggressive statement and sarcasm skills have been hone to a fine edge over 20 years of forum participation and I am willing to use them although I would much rather enjoy a good joke or have a nice clean debate.

[GT/86]

I better hurry and trade my 14 for the last 16 WTF there are thinking leave the fucking car along a give it more power

[stevesnj]

Hmmm here's the GRMN 86 manual trans gear ratio's. Wonder if the same gearing was done to the '17? Or too aggressive. Was any change to the final drive mentioned?

[cyde01]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I may not (usually) fire the first shot but am prepared to continue the battle if anybody wishes to go that route. My passive aggressive statement and sarcasm skills have been hone to a fine edge over 20 years of forum participation and I am willing to use them although I would much rather enjoy a good joke or have a nice clean debate.

no one's fired a shot and no one wants to do battle! Look at stevesnj's post above, my thoughts exactly! Sheesh i really thought the debate stayed clean the whole time, i guess i'll stop making meme photos.