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07-05-2018, 06:36 PM | #43 |
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Preface, haven't driven the newer GTI:
While I'm sure the GTI would be fun to drive, a lot of cars are, I prefer to stick with the formula I like: - Lightweight - RWD - 2 doors - Manual Trans Creature comforts and "more vehicle for the $$" isn't as important. Of course I have a budget, sure. But seats, tech, comfort, dash materials, interior colors, etc are not weighing on my decision. There could be other vehicles in the mid-$20k range that could have offered more in this sense. On another note, I have owned a VW before. Much like you are weary of the reliability now after your incident, I find things engineered by Toyota or Subaru in general to be far more reliable than VW. https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...they-stack-up/
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Man, every once in a while an 86 might break and require a $7k new engine, but a GTI is gonna cost you that much over a few years in replacement engine sensors :P
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I've driven, but not owned both, and keep surfing the ft86 forum...
The gti is a grocery getter with enough engine to overwhelm the chassis. The twins are a sweet balanced sports car. No comparison. |
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I drove the new GTI SE in the 6sp. Great car but as others have said I rather have a twin. RWD, light weight, and just a ton of fun. Add a few mods and the car really comes alive. I would also recommend find a used twin. You can save alot of money. Just gotta look around.
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When the twins were first introduced the difference with the GTI wasn't really big. The GTI engine had 209PS and more torque, but the weight to power ratio was better for our cars. The things changed radically after some years with the engine revisions of the GTI and the addition of new models. Check the engine output increases below:
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The GTI is a piece of shit, like every other Volkswagen. Seriously, they are garbage cars.
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I read this entire thread, because in a way, it is me. After test driving an '18 BRZ Limited (in WR Blue no less), it is making me rethink what the #1 car on my "next car list" should be. I really like driving and the BRZ delivered. This car will be my daily driver in SW Ohio to include the possibility of snow/ice like recently. (How good is it at being exposed to salt?)
I currently drive an '04 GTI (Mk4 1.8t flavor) and because of my virtually flawless 14 year & 130K mile ownership experience with it, I thought a current Golf Sport Wagon-S w/4motion or Alltrack-S [all w/3 pedals] was my hands-down next go-to "dad-mobile". A GTI-S was a very close second; but wagon wins for being able to put more junk/bodies in the back, plus wagens are cool, like bow ties. I really wanted a GSW TDI 6spd, but we all know how that went down. My price cap is $30k. The GSWs/Alltracks can be had for under this amount; same for the GTI-S. Another reason for choosing (sticking with) a VW product is the profuse aftermarket surrounding that brand, so any "shortcoming" in the car could be remedied w/any number of aftermarket pieces/parts that are out there...nothing wild, just along the OEM+ flavor. However, the test drive in the '18 BRZ really opened my eyes. Granted, the BRZ is not w/o its faults and the biggest one, for me anyway, is the fact that the driver (front) seat(s) don't return to their original driving position after being flipped forward after letting someone in the back. My 14yo 2-door '04 GTI does this, so why not the BRZ/86? My 7yo son would need to ride in the back occasionally as the wife can't always pick him up from school or shuttle him around to other various engagement; thus the gripe about the seat action...I guess it won't be too much of an issue... I am an undertall person and can actually sit behind the driver seat when it is in my driving position (I can also sit in the back seat and not hit my head on the glass). My son would have enough room in the back so I think that he would be fine. So now the BIG question is -- stick with VW, a brand I am familiar with in both feel and functionality and I see myself as a hatch/wagon guy...or...jump ship and plant my derriere in a Subaru that can add a bit more spice to the daily commute if I choose not to take the highway to/from work. The trunk is big enough for what I haul (I just like the hatch flexibility) and it would seldom see more than 1 person. i haven't had a RWD car since the '72 Datsun 510 wagen I drove in HS or the hand-me-down '80 Volvo 244 GL [crank sunroof FTW] I drove later in HS. I know comparing a pedestrian FWD/AWD hatch/wagen to a RWD sports car is not normal, but that is what I'm doing. Each car wins in different categories. The VWs offer 4 doors and larger trunk space, but the BRZ pushes most of the sensible, tangible features aside for more intangible ones, like the ones that release endorphins and other things that bring joy and happiness. I can drive all of the cars stock, but I believe I would enjoy the BRZ the most, even in its stock form. Our other go-to roadtrip, haul-the-kid-around, grocery-getter car is a CX-5 so space isn't an issue, just towing a trailer. First world problems, I know, but this is a very real world comparison. And now, the Veloster-N adds one more variable to this equation. Cheers.
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Yes, and fezzes too.
I've read the other BRZ/86 vs 'other cars' threads too. Very interesting reads. I don't have to be the fastest on the street or the track. I just have to enjoy driving the car. Cars are different things to different people. For instance, my Dad is a Beige Camry guy...no really, he has two Beige Camryies, an '08 and '12 and they are used as appliances - driven, serviced, and seldom washed. Since I don't go through cars like facial tissue, the next car I choose is going to have to be it, THE CAR, for the next 7-10 years (at a minimum). Each car I have picked out, among the various brands - VW, Subaru, Mazda, Hyundai, is a depreciating asset, so why not try to hang on to it for as long as possible, plus it is in my best financial interest to do so. The only one thing that my next car must have is a manual transmission. I will do my part to #savethemanuals buy purchasing one manual car. I could buy used, but I don't trust the used car market - dealer/private seller, it doesn't matter. My next car WILL NOT be a CUV.
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BRZ/FRS looks definitely better than GTI. And I guess parts for GTI will cost higher
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I haven't driven one, but a friend of mine took me for a spin in his mk6 with a dct. Nice practical fun car. But what I found odd was just how "ok" the interior was. Considering how much hype these cars get for their interior, I was actually a bit disappointed. Maybe the mk7 is that much better?
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